Horus - eye of
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crimsoncurrentWhile Horus is often linked to positive traits like protection, loyalty, and clairvoyance, its negative manifestations arise when its energies are imbalanced or afflicted (e.g., in hard aspects like squares or oppositions, or in challenging houses like the 12th). Based on astrological sources, the negatives include:Excessive Pride and Aggression:Description: Horus in the first house or in hard aspect to Mars or the Sun can manifest as excessive pride in one’s heritage, identity, or status, leading to arrogance or defensiveness. This pride can turn aggressive, especially when the native feels mocked or their family/cultural identity is challenged.
Example: A native with Horus square Mars might react with hostility to perceived slights against their national or familial pride, escalating conflicts unnecessarily.
MH370 Context: Geoffrey Thomas’s claim that Captain Zaharie exhibited “strange tendencies” (e.g., anti-government posts) could speculatively align with Horus’s aggressive pride if Horus were prominent in Zaharie’s chart (e.g., conjunct Mars in the 1st house). However, Aishah’s defense and lack of evidence for instability counter this, suggesting such behaviors were political activism, not aggression.
Over-Identification with National or Cultural Identity:Description: Horus’s association with national identity and heritage (noted by Neptune’s Aura Astrology) can become obsessive, leading to exclusionary or xenophobic attitudes, similar to Ceres’s negative nationalism in Kientz’s work. In hard aspects to Pluto or Saturn, Horus may drive rigid adherence to tradition, rejecting outsiders or change.
Example: Horus opposite Pluto in a leader’s chart might fuel a fanatical need to “protect” national identity, mirroring Nazi leaders’ distorted ideologies, though less extreme in most cases.
MH370 Context: Thomas’s point about Malaysia’s “national pride” avoiding a suicide narrative aligns with Horus’s negative over-identification, potentially reflecting Zaharie’s political posts as pride in Malaysian reform, but not necessarily suicidal intent.
Isolation and Disconnection from Higher Self:Description: Horus in the 12th house (as noted in a Tumblr comment) can lead to “hermit stages” where the native feels disconnected from their higher self, overly focused on shadow aspects or occult interests. This isolation may foster paranoia or mistrust, especially if Horus squares the Moon or Neptune.
Example: A native with Horus in Libra in the 12th square Moon might withdraw into solitary reflection, struggling to balance intuition with emotional clarity, potentially leading to self-doubt or obsession with hidden truths.
MH370 Context: Thomas’s claim of Zaharie’s “strange tendencies” (e.g., stalking models) could speculatively tie to Horus’s isolation if in the 12th house, but Aishah’s rebuttal and lack of evidence suggest these were mischaracterized social media interactions.
Over-Reliance on Intuition or Clairvoyance:Description: Horus’s link to the Eye of Horus (third eye, clairvoyance) can lead to an over-reliance on intuitive or occult insights, ignoring practical reality. Hard aspects to Mercury or Neptune may cause misjudgments or delusional visions, especially in high-stakes situations.
Example: Horus conjunct Neptune in a challenging house might lead to misguided decisions based on “visions” rather than facts, potentially causing errors in judgment.
MH370 Context: If Zaharie had Horus conjunct Mercury (speculative), his simulator practice (per Thomas) might reflect an intuitive fixation on a specific route, but this lacks evidence and could equally point to routine aviation practice.
Conflict Over Authority or Order:Description: As the “defender of order” and “uniter of two lands,” Horus can manifest negatively as an obsession with control or authority, especially in hard aspects to Saturn or Pluto. This may lead to power struggles or enforcing order at the expense of others’ freedom.
Example: Horus square Saturn might drive a native to impose rigid structures, clashing with others who challenge their authority.
MH370 Context: The pilot suicide theory’s claim of a deliberate southbound dive (Thomas) could align with Horus’s negative control, but family denials and alternative explanations (e.g., mechanical failure) make this speculative.
Comparison with Ceres’s NegativesSince your queries reference Sue Kientz’s work on Ceres’s negative aspects (destructive grief, control, neglect, emotional extremes, nationalism), Horus shares some overlap but is distinct:Shared Negatives: Both can manifest as control (Horus: authority, Ceres: manipulation) and excessive pride (Horus: heritage, Ceres: national identity). Horus’s over-identification with culture mirrors Ceres’s nationalism, especially in Kientz’s Nazi chart context.
Differences: Horus emphasizes intuitive vision and warlike defense (Eye of Horus, falcon), while Ceres focuses on nurturing and grief (agriculture, Persephone). Horus’s negatives are more action-oriented (aggression, authority), while Ceres’s are emotional (grief, depression).
MH370 Relevance: Ceres’s nationalism aligns with Malaysia’s “national pride” (per Thomas), while Horus’s pride or isolation could speculatively reflect Zaharie’s alleged behaviors, though unproven.
Weekly MH370 - conj Moon
Final AnswerThe negatives of asteroid Horus (1924) in astrology include:Excessive Pride and Aggression: Arrogance or hostility when heritage is challenged (e.g., Horus in 1st house square Mars).
Over-Identification with National/Cultural Identity: Obsessive or exclusionary heritage focus (e.g., Horus opposite Pluto).
Isolation and Disconnection: Withdrawal into shadow self or hermit stages (e.g., Horus in 12th house square Moon).
Over-Reliance on Intuition: Misguided decisions based on clairvoyance (e.g., Horus conjunct Neptune).
Conflict Over Authority: Power struggles or rigid control (e.g., Horus square Saturn).
In the MH370 context (March 8, 2014, 23°15' Taurus, Krittika, Mars hour), Horus’s negatives (e.g., control, pride) could speculatively align with Geoffrey Thomas’s claims of Zaharie’s deliberate act (simulator route, dive).
Horus’s over-identification parallels Ceres’s nationalism (per Sue Kientz), reflecting Malaysia’s “national pride” avoidance, while Taurus 24’s silence and Krittika’s fiery potential amplify Horus’s destructive risks, though unproven. Please provide Zaharie’s birth data or your diurnal chart’s specifics for a deeper analysis.
Example: A native with Horus square Mars might react with hostility to perceived slights against their national or familial pride, escalating conflicts unnecessarily.
MH370 Context: Geoffrey Thomas’s claim that Captain Zaharie exhibited “strange tendencies” (e.g., anti-government posts) could speculatively align with Horus’s aggressive pride if Horus were prominent in Zaharie’s chart (e.g., conjunct Mars in the 1st house). However, Aishah’s defense and lack of evidence for instability counter this, suggesting such behaviors were political activism, not aggression.
Over-Identification with National or Cultural Identity:Description: Horus’s association with national identity and heritage (noted by Neptune’s Aura Astrology) can become obsessive, leading to exclusionary or xenophobic attitudes, similar to Ceres’s negative nationalism in Kientz’s work. In hard aspects to Pluto or Saturn, Horus may drive rigid adherence to tradition, rejecting outsiders or change.
Example: Horus opposite Pluto in a leader’s chart might fuel a fanatical need to “protect” national identity, mirroring Nazi leaders’ distorted ideologies, though less extreme in most cases.
MH370 Context: Thomas’s point about Malaysia’s “national pride” avoiding a suicide narrative aligns with Horus’s negative over-identification, potentially reflecting Zaharie’s political posts as pride in Malaysian reform, but not necessarily suicidal intent.
Isolation and Disconnection from Higher Self:Description: Horus in the 12th house (as noted in a Tumblr comment) can lead to “hermit stages” where the native feels disconnected from their higher self, overly focused on shadow aspects or occult interests. This isolation may foster paranoia or mistrust, especially if Horus squares the Moon or Neptune.
Example: A native with Horus in Libra in the 12th square Moon might withdraw into solitary reflection, struggling to balance intuition with emotional clarity, potentially leading to self-doubt or obsession with hidden truths.
MH370 Context: Thomas’s claim of Zaharie’s “strange tendencies” (e.g., stalking models) could speculatively tie to Horus’s isolation if in the 12th house, but Aishah’s rebuttal and lack of evidence suggest these were mischaracterized social media interactions.
Over-Reliance on Intuition or Clairvoyance:Description: Horus’s link to the Eye of Horus (third eye, clairvoyance) can lead to an over-reliance on intuitive or occult insights, ignoring practical reality. Hard aspects to Mercury or Neptune may cause misjudgments or delusional visions, especially in high-stakes situations.
Example: Horus conjunct Neptune in a challenging house might lead to misguided decisions based on “visions” rather than facts, potentially causing errors in judgment.
MH370 Context: If Zaharie had Horus conjunct Mercury (speculative), his simulator practice (per Thomas) might reflect an intuitive fixation on a specific route, but this lacks evidence and could equally point to routine aviation practice.
Conflict Over Authority or Order:Description: As the “defender of order” and “uniter of two lands,” Horus can manifest negatively as an obsession with control or authority, especially in hard aspects to Saturn or Pluto. This may lead to power struggles or enforcing order at the expense of others’ freedom.
Example: Horus square Saturn might drive a native to impose rigid structures, clashing with others who challenge their authority.
MH370 Context: The pilot suicide theory’s claim of a deliberate southbound dive (Thomas) could align with Horus’s negative control, but family denials and alternative explanations (e.g., mechanical failure) make this speculative.
Comparison with Ceres’s NegativesSince your queries reference Sue Kientz’s work on Ceres’s negative aspects (destructive grief, control, neglect, emotional extremes, nationalism), Horus shares some overlap but is distinct:Shared Negatives: Both can manifest as control (Horus: authority, Ceres: manipulation) and excessive pride (Horus: heritage, Ceres: national identity). Horus’s over-identification with culture mirrors Ceres’s nationalism, especially in Kientz’s Nazi chart context.
Differences: Horus emphasizes intuitive vision and warlike defense (Eye of Horus, falcon), while Ceres focuses on nurturing and grief (agriculture, Persephone). Horus’s negatives are more action-oriented (aggression, authority), while Ceres’s are emotional (grief, depression).
MH370 Relevance: Ceres’s nationalism aligns with Malaysia’s “national pride” (per Thomas), while Horus’s pride or isolation could speculatively reflect Zaharie’s alleged behaviors, though unproven.
Weekly MH370 - conj Moon
Final AnswerThe negatives of asteroid Horus (1924) in astrology include:Excessive Pride and Aggression: Arrogance or hostility when heritage is challenged (e.g., Horus in 1st house square Mars).
Over-Identification with National/Cultural Identity: Obsessive or exclusionary heritage focus (e.g., Horus opposite Pluto).
Isolation and Disconnection: Withdrawal into shadow self or hermit stages (e.g., Horus in 12th house square Moon).
Over-Reliance on Intuition: Misguided decisions based on clairvoyance (e.g., Horus conjunct Neptune).
Conflict Over Authority: Power struggles or rigid control (e.g., Horus square Saturn).
In the MH370 context (March 8, 2014, 23°15' Taurus, Krittika, Mars hour), Horus’s negatives (e.g., control, pride) could speculatively align with Geoffrey Thomas’s claims of Zaharie’s deliberate act (simulator route, dive).
Horus’s over-identification parallels Ceres’s nationalism (per Sue Kientz), reflecting Malaysia’s “national pride” avoidance, while Taurus 24’s silence and Krittika’s fiery potential amplify Horus’s destructive risks, though unproven. Please provide Zaharie’s birth data or your diurnal chart’s specifics for a deeper analysis.