AP/SA v ASC/SA (on the True Point)
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crimsoncurrentASCENDANT
The immediate environment. Locality. Sur
roundings. Relationship. The "Thou." Other
people. Acquaintanceship. Face-to-face
situations.
ARIES POINT (0° Aries)
The world in general. The street. Out in the
open. Terrestrial influences. The many un
familiar people who pass through one's life,
who come and go but remain unknown. More
or less impersonal relationships with people.
Thought for 8s
AscendantThe Ascendant, also known as the Rising Sign, refers to the zodiac sign that was rising on the eastern horizon at the exact moment of birth. In terms of environment, it symbolizes the immediate, personal surroundings and how one interacts with them on a direct, interpersonal level. Key aspects include:Locality and surroundings: The physical and social space closest to you, like your home, neighborhood, or daily routine settings.
Relationships and the "Thou": Focuses on one-on-one connections, such as with partners, friends, or acquaintances. It emphasizes face-to-face situations where personal engagement and mutual recognition occur.
Other people: Involves known or familiar individuals in your life, highlighting acquaintanceship and direct relational dynamics.
This makes the Ascendant's environment feel intimate, relational, and centered on personal interactions that shape your self-presentation and immediate experiences.Aries Point (0° Aries)The Aries Point is the exact degree of 0° Aries in the zodiac, often used in advanced astrological systems like Uranian astrology or cosmobiology. It represents a point of cardinal energy tied to the equinox, symbolizing entry into the public or worldly sphere. Regarding environment, it pertains to the broader, impersonal world and transient encounters. Key aspects include:The world in general and the street: Open, public spaces like cities, crowds, or global influences that are not tied to your personal circle.
Out in the open and terrestrial influences: Exposure to external, earthly forces such as societal trends, weather, or collective events that affect everyone broadly.
Unfamiliar people: Strangers or passersby who enter and exit your life without forming deep bonds—think of anonymous interactions in public, like commuters or crowds.
Impersonal relationships: Connections that lack depth or recognition, remaining superficial and fleeting.
This positions the Aries Point's environment as expansive, anonymous, and influenced by the collective rather than the individual.Exact Differences in EnvironmentWhile both involve interactions with the external world, the core distinction lies in scale, intimacy, and relational depth:Scope: Ascendant is local and immediate (e.g., your room, street corner with friends), whereas Aries Point is global and open (e.g., the bustling city square or worldwide events).
Personal vs. Impersonal: Ascendant emphasizes known people and direct, face-to-face relationships (the "Thou" or "you and I" dynamic), fostering acquaintance and mutual influence. Aries Point deals with unknown masses and transient figures, leading to impersonal, one-way encounters where people "come and go" without lasting impact.
Influence and Interaction: The Ascendant's environment shapes your personal identity and daily dealings through close surroundings and relationships. The Aries Point's environment reflects broader terrestrial or societal forces, like public opinion or random passersby, that touch your life indirectly and impersonally.
Astrological Context: In charts, the Ascendant is a personal angle tied to self-projection in intimate settings, while the Aries Point often activates in transits or midpoints, highlighting public exposure or worldly events.
In essence, the Ascendant is about your "personal bubble" of familiar interactions, while the Aries Point extends to the "vast ocean" of anonymous, worldly influences. These interpretations align with traditional astrological texts, such as those from Reinhold Ebertin or Alfred Witte in Uranian systems, where the Aries Point is seen as a gateway to the public realm.
Arie
The immediate environment. Locality. Sur
roundings. Relationship. The "Thou." Other
people. Acquaintanceship. Face-to-face
situations.
ARIES POINT (0° Aries)
The world in general. The street. Out in the
open. Terrestrial influences. The many un
familiar people who pass through one's life,
who come and go but remain unknown. More
or less impersonal relationships with people.
Thought for 8s
AscendantThe Ascendant, also known as the Rising Sign, refers to the zodiac sign that was rising on the eastern horizon at the exact moment of birth. In terms of environment, it symbolizes the immediate, personal surroundings and how one interacts with them on a direct, interpersonal level. Key aspects include:Locality and surroundings: The physical and social space closest to you, like your home, neighborhood, or daily routine settings.
Relationships and the "Thou": Focuses on one-on-one connections, such as with partners, friends, or acquaintances. It emphasizes face-to-face situations where personal engagement and mutual recognition occur.
Other people: Involves known or familiar individuals in your life, highlighting acquaintanceship and direct relational dynamics.
This makes the Ascendant's environment feel intimate, relational, and centered on personal interactions that shape your self-presentation and immediate experiences.Aries Point (0° Aries)The Aries Point is the exact degree of 0° Aries in the zodiac, often used in advanced astrological systems like Uranian astrology or cosmobiology. It represents a point of cardinal energy tied to the equinox, symbolizing entry into the public or worldly sphere. Regarding environment, it pertains to the broader, impersonal world and transient encounters. Key aspects include:The world in general and the street: Open, public spaces like cities, crowds, or global influences that are not tied to your personal circle.
Out in the open and terrestrial influences: Exposure to external, earthly forces such as societal trends, weather, or collective events that affect everyone broadly.
Unfamiliar people: Strangers or passersby who enter and exit your life without forming deep bonds—think of anonymous interactions in public, like commuters or crowds.
Impersonal relationships: Connections that lack depth or recognition, remaining superficial and fleeting.
This positions the Aries Point's environment as expansive, anonymous, and influenced by the collective rather than the individual.Exact Differences in EnvironmentWhile both involve interactions with the external world, the core distinction lies in scale, intimacy, and relational depth:Scope: Ascendant is local and immediate (e.g., your room, street corner with friends), whereas Aries Point is global and open (e.g., the bustling city square or worldwide events).
Personal vs. Impersonal: Ascendant emphasizes known people and direct, face-to-face relationships (the "Thou" or "you and I" dynamic), fostering acquaintance and mutual influence. Aries Point deals with unknown masses and transient figures, leading to impersonal, one-way encounters where people "come and go" without lasting impact.
Influence and Interaction: The Ascendant's environment shapes your personal identity and daily dealings through close surroundings and relationships. The Aries Point's environment reflects broader terrestrial or societal forces, like public opinion or random passersby, that touch your life indirectly and impersonally.
Astrological Context: In charts, the Ascendant is a personal angle tied to self-projection in intimate settings, while the Aries Point often activates in transits or midpoints, highlighting public exposure or worldly events.
In essence, the Ascendant is about your "personal bubble" of familiar interactions, while the Aries Point extends to the "vast ocean" of anonymous, worldly influences. These interpretations align with traditional astrological texts, such as those from Reinhold Ebertin or Alfred Witte in Uranian systems, where the Aries Point is seen as a gateway to the public realm.
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