15 Gemini pt 2
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crimsoncurrentSepharial’s Interpretation: Gemini 15° – "A woman holding a bundle of faggots, her hair loose and disordered by the wind. She wanders in search of something"
Symbol Explained
Image:
Woman: A feminine figure, often symbolizing intuition, emotion, or the soul in esoteric traditions.
Bundle of Faggots: "Faggots" here means sticks for kindling—carrying a burden, possibly fuel for warmth or survival, suggesting effort or resourcefulness.
Loose, Disordered Hair: Wind-tossed hair implies chaos, freedom, or a lack of control—mental or emotional disarray.
Wanders in Search: Aimless movement with purpose—a quest for meaning, connection, or resolution amid uncertainty.
Core Meaning:
Sepharial sees this as a degree of restless seeking—mental or emotional energy scattered by external forces (wind/Gemini’s airiness), yet driven by an inner need. The burden (faggots) suggests labor or past efforts carried forward, while the wandering reflects Gemini’s curiosity unmoored.
It’s a poignant image of struggle and aspiration—searching without clear direction, burdened yet propelled.
Sepharial’s Implied Themes
Positive: Persistence in pursuit, resourcefulness (faggots as tools), adaptability to chaos (wind).
Negative: Disorientation, fruitless wandering, overburdened by trivialities.
Context: In Sepharial’s system, degrees often carry a karmic or psychological tone—here, a soul grappling with Gemini’s duality and restlessness.
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Charubel’s Gemini 15°—"A rapid inland stream which might be called a narrow river"—casts Jupiter’s 2025 transit as a swift, focused flow:
UK 1801: 9th house diplomacy surges dynamically, constrained by narrowness—e.g., trade talks rush but falter.
UK 1066: 3rd/6th house service communication flows fast, limited by tension—e.g., health efforts over-rush.
USA Sibley: 7th house alliances stream quickly, narrowed by interception—e.g., diplomacy surges without depth.
World: A global rush in practical/relational spheres, potent yet confined, per Charubel—2025 moves swiftly, but interception curbs its reach.
Unlike Sepharial’s restless wandering or Rudhyar’s clarity, Charubel emphasizes directed momentum within limits.
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Ada Muir
Symbol: "One whose mental faculties are above the average; versatility."
Interpretation: Intellectual agility and adaptability—practical yet expansive thinking.
USA (Sibley): Versatile 6th house approaches (e.g., multi-faceted healthcare), aligning with Bovee’s dual levels, though intercepted.
World: Adaptive global communication, with a spiritual edge per Bovee.
Adriano Carelli
Symbol: "A man playing a violin."
Interpretation: Creative, harmonious expression—communication as art, requiring skill.
USA (Sibley): In the 6th, persuasive health/work rhetoric, resonating with Bovee’s "luminous cheer" in service roles.
World: Artistic global dialogue, spiritually infused (Bovee), though interception softens.
HENSON -
Symbol: A wounded soldier drawing an arrow from his arm. A dog is howling near-by.
Denotes one of martial and impulsive nature who is liable to suffer from his restless temperament.
His imagination is prolific, but apt to run into wrong grooves and useless pathways. To such, self restraint and mental training is necessary, and a determination to employ his martial powers for high achievements. It is a symbol of Restlessness.
USA (Sibley): In the 6th, experimental labor/health policies (e.g., funding trials), with Bovee’s dual awareness adding depth.
World: Global resource games, spiritually nuanced per Bovee.
Franz Bardon
Interpretation: No direct degree symbol; Bardon’s mystical system links 15° (1+5=6) to harmony and Mercury’s communicative magic.
USA (Sibley): In the 6th, transformative words in service, echoing Bovee’s heavenly reverberation, though intercepted.
World: Global speech as a mystical tool, per Bovee’s netherworld connection.
David Cochrane
Interpretation: Harmonic theory suggests 14-15° Gemini has a Virgo sub-tone—analytical, service-oriented communication.
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USA (Sibley): In the 6th, passionate service efforts, aligning with Bovee’s cheerful resonance.
15� Gemini: A wounded soldier drawing an arrow from his arm. A dog is howling near-by.
Denotes one of martial and impulsive nature who is liable to suffer from his restless temperament. His imagination is prolific, but apt to run into wrong grooves and useless pathways. To such, self-restraint and mental training is necessary, and a determination to employ his martial powers for high achievements. It is a symbol of Restlessness.
USA (Sibley): In the 6th, visionary health/work ideas, with Bovee’s otherworldly light enhancing allure.
World: Enchanting global rhetoric, spiritually potent (Bovee).
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14-15 deg Gemini
This degree strongly suggests dishonesty. If the native is basically honest, upright and
straightforward this degree would at the very least suggest trickery in coloring the truth.
He seldom gets away with anything because there is also an element of exposure. Even so there is something which pushes him to keep trying.
This may range from outright dishonesty to more or less harmless games which test his ability. If most of the planets are in the upper half of the chart this may turn out to be a ridiculously funny game. Since in that case his every plan would be most obvious to everyone. If the planets are located below the horizon or the lower half of the chart the game may become pretty tricky and quite successful. There is a strong tendency to lie about anything and everything. However many respectable people have this degree activated in the chart without seriously destroying their character. So look to the rest of the chart for direction. It does denote a clever mentality. Much depends on where it is centered and the general setting.
USA (Sibley): In the 6th, diplomatic labor/health handling, resonating with Bovee’s supportive chat.
World: Tactful global exchanges, blessed by Bovee’s beyond.
Janduz
Symbol: "A woman standing in front of a cupboard filled with bottles and jars."
Interpretation: Resourcefulness—practical communication or nurturing inventory.
USA (Sibley): In the 6th, stockpiling health/work solutions, with Bovee’s dual awareness adding depth.
World: Resourceful global ideas, spiritually enriched (Bovee).
Synthesis: USA (Sibley Chart) and World
USA (Sibley Chart)
Jupiter at ~18-20° Gemini in 6th: Gemini 15 (~14° Gemini) flavors Jupiter’s vibe:
Work/Health: Bovee’s “Two Dutch children” suggests dual-layered service talks—practical and spiritual (e.g., healthcare reform with intuitive flair). Others add versatility (Muir, Cochrane), creativity (Carelli, Matthews, Kozminsky), or fragility (Charubel), with interception delaying impact.
Sibley Ties: Opposes Ascendant (12° Sagittarius), testing optimism; squares Moon (27° Aquarius), stirring public duality per Bovee.
Impact: A year of subtle, spiritually infused service efforts—work/health dialogues echo beyond, though muted.
World
Themes:
Communication: Bovee’s double entendre—surface and spirit—blends with visionary (Sepharial), tactful (Leinbach), or resourceful (Janduz) global talks. Charubel warns of breaks; Kozminsky adds enchantment.
Interception: Jupiter’s 6th house restraint slows global service/diplomacy gains (7th link).
Impact: A world of layered discourse—practical yet luminous—awaiting full expression.
Conclusion
Bovee’s Gemini 15—“Two Dutch children talking”—casts 2025 as a year of dual communication for the USA (Sibley) and world, with Jupiter in the 6th weaving spiritual depth into work/health. Other astrologers enrich this: Sepharial’s vision, Charubel’s caution, Muir’s versatility, and beyond. For the USA, service sectors hum with hidden light, tempered by interception; globally, words bridge worlds, per Bovee’s cheer, though delays persist.
how does it affect the 1801 and 1066 charts of UK
UK 1066 Chart Overview
Date: December 25, 1066, 12:00 PM LMT (noon, coronation of William I), Westminster, London.
Purpose: Marks the Norman Conquest and founding of modern England.
Gemini 15 (~14° Gemini) is ~4-6° from Jupiter’s position, close enough to flavor its influence symbolically.
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14-15 deg Gemini
Symbol: A seven-headed human being.
.........as the man in whose mind thought springs from thought farther and farther strays from his own aim as each new purpose damps the former one. -Dante, Purg. 5, 16-18
Should the native successfully stem the onrush of his mental turmoil and impose himself a method, an inner order and an intellectual discipline, the lively originality and the boundless manifoldness of
his versatile mind may recommend him to everyone’s admiration and open a bright career for him. I said if. Otherwise, his restless desultoriness will lead him to do too much at one time, getting bun all tied up in the knots of his scattered activity. What could have been original becomes eccentric; whatever is gained in extension is lost in depth.
Corrected Gemini 15° Symbols and Explanations
Blain Bovee: "Two Dutch children talking"
Meaning: Dual-layered communication—mundane and spiritual, with "luminous cheer" when secure, anxiety when not.
Dane Rudhyar: "Two Dutch children talking"
Meaning: Clarification—simple, unconditioned exchange distilling life to common elements, fostering ease or risking provincialism.
Sepharial: "A woman holding a bundle of faggots, her hair loose and disordered by the wind. She wanders in search of something"
Meaning: Restless quest—burdened, scattered seeking, persistent yet aimless.
Charubel: "A rapid inland stream which might be called a narrow river"
Meaning: Swift, focused flow—dynamic energy channeled narrowly, potent but limited.
Adriano Carelli: "A seven-headed human being"
Meaning: Multi-faceted mind—versatile brilliance if disciplined, scattered chaos if not.
Isidore Kozminsky: "A wounded soldier drawing an arrow from his arm. A dog is howling near-by"
Meaning: Kozminsky writes, "Denotes one of martial and impulsive nature who is liable to suffer from his restless temperament. His imagination is prolific, but apt to run into wrong grooves and useless pathways. To such, self-restraint and mental training is necessary, and a determination to employ his martial powers for high achievements. It is a symbol of Restlessness."
Explanation: This symbol portrays a figure of action (soldier) wounded by his own impulsivity (arrow), suffering (howling dog) from a restless, prolific mind that veers off course. It’s Gemini’s mental energy turned martial—dynamic but self-damaging without discipline, urging focus for noble ends.
Positive: Disciplined, high-achieving energy.
Negative: Self-inflicted harm, wasted potential.
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HENSON
14-15 deg Gemini
Literature; follows many callings; quick, adaptable, and ingenious; the kind of imagination that may
make one a great author or a confirmed liar; indecision; affects the eyes; scapula (shoulder blade).
14-15 deg Gemini
Alert, restless, aggressive, prolific imagination, reformative.
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Franz Bardon: (Inferred) Communicative magic (15° = 1+5 = 6, Mercury’s harmony)
Meaning: Transformative words—potent expression.
David Cochrane: (Inferred) Virgo sub-tone—analytical precision
Meaning: Detailed, practical communication.
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Corrected Gemini 15° Symbols and Explanations
Blain Bovee: "Two Dutch children talking"
Meaning: Dual-layered communication—mundane and spiritual, with "luminous cheer" when secure, anxiety when not.
Dane Rudhyar: "Two Dutch children talking"
Meaning: Clarification—simple, unconditioned exchange distilling life to common elements, fostering ease or risking provincialism.
Sepharial: "A woman holding a bundle of faggots, her hair loose and disordered by the wind. She wanders in search of something"
Meaning: Restless quest—burdened, scattered seeking, persistent yet aimless.
Charubel: "A rapid inland stream which might be called a narrow river"
Meaning: Swift, focused flow—dynamic energy channeled narrowly, potent but limited.
Adriano Carelli: "A seven-headed human being"
Meaning: Multi-faceted mind—versatile brilliance if disciplined, scattered chaos if not.
Isidore Kozminsky: "A wounded soldier drawing an arrow from his arm. A dog is howling near-by"
Meaning: Restless, impulsive nature—prolific imagination veering off, needing discipline to avoid self-harm and achieve high goals.
Janduz: "In a forest, a woman carries a bunch of wood on her back. She seems to look for something on the ground and does not notice the two-headed man who follows her"
Meaning: Janduz describes an "inventive, fickle, and restless character" overwhelmed by a "constant stream of ideas" needing sorting for their value to shine. This degree promises "good luck and… fame, wealth and happiness" if harnessed.
Explanation: The woman with wood (burdened effort) searches (restless focus) in a forest (complexity), unaware of the two-headed man (duality or hidden opportunity/threat). It’s Gemini’s ingenuity and restlessness, teeming with potential yet distracted—success hinges on focus.
Positive: Inventive success—luck and rewards.
Negative: Fickle overload—missed potential.
Ada Muir: "One whose mental faculties are above the average; versatility"
Meaning: Intellectual agility—broad, adaptable thinking.
Donna Walter Henson (Weber): "A youth throwing coins into a cup as if playing a game"
Meaning: Playful risk—light experimentation, possibly wasteful.
Franz Bardon: (Inferred) Communicative magic (15° = 1+5 = 6, Mercury’s harmony)
Meaning: Transformative words—potent expression.
David Cochrane: (Inferred) Virgo sub-tone—analytical precision
Meaning: Detailed, practical communication.
E.C. Matthews: "A carefree, artistic, passionate, and generous soul"
Meaning: Bohemian creativity—warm, unstructured expression.
Esther V. Leinbach: "A person with a natural ability to please others; tact and diplomacy"
Meaning: Social finesse—harmonious persuasion.
Degree Theory (Stojanovic): (Inferred) Mercury’s potency—communicative duality
Meaning: Articulate exchange—clear or over-talkative.
Aries Ingress 2025 Context
Jupiter: ~18-20° Gemini, 6th house (Aries cusp, Gemini intercepted), ruling 7th (Pisces intercepted).
Locations: London (Asc ~25-29° Sagittarius), Washington, D.C. (Asc ~27-29° Scorpio).
Gemini 15° (~14° Gemini): ~4-6° from Jupiter, flavoring its transit.
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Impact on UK 1801 Chart (Continued)
Transit: Jupiter in 9th (~15° Gemini cusp)
Aspects: Opposes Ascendant (8° Libra, wide), squares Jupiter (25° Cancer, 10th), trines Sun (~10° Capricorn, 4th).
Gemini 15° Effects
Bovee: Dual-layered 9th house talks resonate spiritually—e.g., trade with hidden depth.
Rudhyar: Clarifies diplomacy—e.g., simple trade terms, risking provincialism.
Sepharial: Restless quest burdens—e.g., scattered trade searches.
Charubel: Rapid stream focuses—e.g., fast trade flows narrowly.
Carelli: Multi-headed mind multiplies—e.g., versatile trade ideas tangle.
Kozminsky: Wounded soldier’s restlessness—e.g., impulsive trade moves wound UK’s stance.
Janduz: Woman with wood and two-headed follower—e.g., inventive trade efforts burdened by restless ideas, missing dual opportunities (two-headed man).
Positive: Sorted ideas bring luck—e.g., brilliant trade pacts win fame.
Negative: Fickle overload—e.g., distracted talks falter (interception delays).
Others: Muir (versatile), Henson (risky), Bardon (magical), Cochrane (precise), Matthews (passionate), Leinbach (tactful).
Outcome: Jupiter in 9th flows (Charubel), clarifies (Rudhyar), deepens (Bovee), seeks (Sepharial), sprawls (Carelli), wounds (Kozminsky), or invents (Janduz)—trade rushes inventively, muted by interception—e.g., brilliant ideas scatter, missing dual gains.
Impact on UK 1066 Chart
Transit: Jupiter in 3rd (~19° Gemini cusp)
Aspects: Squares Moon (29° Pisces, 12th), opposes Uranus (29° Sagittarius, 9th), squares Jupiter (~18° Virgo, 6th, exact).
Gemini 15° Effects
Bovee: Dual local talks resonate—e.g., health media with spiritual echo.
Rudhyar: Clarifies communication—e.g., simple health messages.
Sepharial: Wandering quest scatters—e.g., burdened local chatter.
Charubel: Rapid stream flows—e.g., fast health campaigns.
Carelli: Multi-headed mind tangles—e.g., versatile health ideas stray.
Kozminsky: Wounded soldier’s restlessness—e.g., impulsive health talk wounds efforts.
Janduz: Woman with wood and two-headed follower—e.g., inventive health campaigns burdened by restless ideas, missing dual insights.
Positive: Sorted ideas bring luck—e.g., brilliant NHS talk wins acclaim.
Negative: Fickle overload—e.g., distracted efforts falter (interception stalls).
Others: Muir (versatile), Henson (risky), Bardon (magical), Cochrane (precise), Matthews (passionate), Leinbach (tactful).
Outcome: Jupiter in 3rd/6th surges (Charubel), simplifies (Rudhyar), deepens (Bovee), seeks (Sepharial), sprawls (Carelli), wounds (Kozminsky), or invents (Janduz)—health talk rushes inventively, limited by squares/interception—e.g., brilliant ideas scatter, missing depth.
Impact on USA Sibley Chart
Transit: Jupiter in 7th (~12° Gemini cusp)
Aspects: Opposes Ascendant (12° Sagittarius), squares Moon (27° Aquarius, 3rd), squares Jupiter (~5°56' Cancer, 7th, wide).
Gemini 15° Effects
Bovee: Dual alliances echo spiritually—e.g., US-UK depth.
Rudhyar: Clarifies pacts—e.g., simple trade terms.
Sepharial: Restless quest scatters—e.g., burdened diplomacy.
Charubel: Rapid stream focuses—e.g., fast pacts.
Carelli: Multi-headed mind multiplies—e.g., versatile relations tangle.
Kozminsky: Wounded soldier’s restlessness—e.g., impulsive alliances wound US stance.
Janduz: Woman with wood and two-headed follower—e.g., inventive diplomacy burdened by restless ideas, missing dual opportunities.
Positive: Sorted ideas bring luck—e.g., brilliant pacts win wealth.
Negative: Fickle overload—e.g., distracted talks falter (interception delays).
Others: Muir (versatile), Henson (risky), Bardon (magical), Cochrane (precise), Matthews (passionate), Leinbach (tactful).
Outcome: Jupiter in 7th streams (Charubel), clarifies (Rudhyar), deepens (Bovee), seeks (Sepharial), sprawls (Carelli), wounds (Kozminsky), or invents (Janduz)—alliances rush inventively, muted by interception—e.g., brilliant ideas scatter, missing gains.
World in General
Gemini 15° Effects
6th House:
Bovee: Spiritual service talk—e.g., health with depth.
Rudhyar: Clear work/health—e.g., simple labor standards.
Sepharial: Burdened health quest—e.g., scattered efforts.
Charubel: Swift service flow—e.g., fast health moves.
Carelli: Versatile health ideas—e.g., multi-faceted plans tangle.
Kozminsky: Restless health rush—e.g., impulsive moves wound.
Janduz: Inventive health efforts—e.g., brilliant ideas scatter, missing dual potential (intercepted).
7th House:
Bovee: Spiritual pacts—e.g., deep diplomacy.
Rudhyar: Clear relations—e.g., simple treaties.
Sepharial: Burdened diplomatic quest—e.g., scattered talks.
Charubel: Swift pacts—e.g., fast agreements.
Carelli: Versatile diplomacy—e.g., multi-headed plans tangle.
Kozminsky: Restless pacts—e.g., impulsive moves wound.
Janduz: Inventive relations—e.g., brilliant pacts falter, missing duality (intercepted).
Outcome: A world flows (Charubel), clarifies (Rudhyar), deepens (Bovee), seeks (Sepharial), sprawls (Carelli), wounds (Kozminsky), or invents (Janduz)—2025 rushes with restless brilliance, tempered by interception.
Corrected Synthesis with All Degrees
Bovee: Dual talk enriches—spiritual resonance.
Rudhyar: Clarifies simply—practical ease.
Sepharial: Restless quest burdens—scattered search.
Charubel: Rapid stream focuses—swift flow.
Carelli: Multi-headed mind multiplies—versatile chaos/brilliance.
Kozminsky: Wounded soldier wounds—restless impulsivity.
Janduz: Woman with wood invents—restless ingenuity, missing duality.
Others: Muir (versatile), Henson (risky), Bardon (magical), Cochrane (precise), Matthews (passionate), Leinbach (tactful).
UK 1801: 9th house flows (Charubel), clarifies (Rudhyar), deepens (Bovee), seeks (Sepharial), sprawls (Carelli), wounds (Kozminsky), or invents (Janduz)—e.g., trade rushes inventively, scatters.
UK 1066: 3rd/6th surges (Charubel), simplifies (Rudhyar), resonates (Bovee), wanders (Sepharial), tangles (Carelli), wounds (Kozminsky), or invents (Janduz)—e.g., health talk strays brilliantly.
USA Sibley: 7th streams (Charubel), clarifies (Rudhyar), echoes (Bovee), quests (Sepharial), multiplies (Carelli), wounds (Kozminsky), or invents (Janduz)—e.g., alliances rush inventively, falter.
World: Dynamic (Charubel), clear (Rudhyar), spiritual (Bovee), seeking (Sepharial), versatile (Carelli), restless (Kozminsky), or inventive (Janduz)—2025 teems with scattered potential.
Conclusion
With Janduz’s correct Gemini 15°—"In a forest, a woman carries a bunch of wood on her back. She seems to look for something on the ground and does not notice the two-headed man who follows her"—Jupiter’s 2025 transit becomes an inventive, restless surge:
UK 1801: 9th house diplomacy invents brilliantly or scatters—e.g., trade misses dual gains.
UK 1066: 3rd/6th service talk invents or tangles—e.g., health efforts stray ingeniously.
USA Sibley: 7th house alliances invent or falter—e.g., pacts rush inventively, wound (Kozminsky).
World: A global rush flows (Charubel), clarifies (Rudhyar), deepens (Bovee), seeks (Sepharial), sprawls (Carelli), wounds (Kozminsky), or invents (Janduz)—2025 teeters on restless brilliance, muted by interception.
Symbol Explained
Image:
Woman: A feminine figure, often symbolizing intuition, emotion, or the soul in esoteric traditions.
Bundle of Faggots: "Faggots" here means sticks for kindling—carrying a burden, possibly fuel for warmth or survival, suggesting effort or resourcefulness.
Loose, Disordered Hair: Wind-tossed hair implies chaos, freedom, or a lack of control—mental or emotional disarray.
Wanders in Search: Aimless movement with purpose—a quest for meaning, connection, or resolution amid uncertainty.
Core Meaning:
Sepharial sees this as a degree of restless seeking—mental or emotional energy scattered by external forces (wind/Gemini’s airiness), yet driven by an inner need. The burden (faggots) suggests labor or past efforts carried forward, while the wandering reflects Gemini’s curiosity unmoored.
It’s a poignant image of struggle and aspiration—searching without clear direction, burdened yet propelled.
Sepharial’s Implied Themes
Positive: Persistence in pursuit, resourcefulness (faggots as tools), adaptability to chaos (wind).
Negative: Disorientation, fruitless wandering, overburdened by trivialities.
Context: In Sepharial’s system, degrees often carry a karmic or psychological tone—here, a soul grappling with Gemini’s duality and restlessness.
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Charubel’s Gemini 15°—"A rapid inland stream which might be called a narrow river"—casts Jupiter’s 2025 transit as a swift, focused flow:
UK 1801: 9th house diplomacy surges dynamically, constrained by narrowness—e.g., trade talks rush but falter.
UK 1066: 3rd/6th house service communication flows fast, limited by tension—e.g., health efforts over-rush.
USA Sibley: 7th house alliances stream quickly, narrowed by interception—e.g., diplomacy surges without depth.
World: A global rush in practical/relational spheres, potent yet confined, per Charubel—2025 moves swiftly, but interception curbs its reach.
Unlike Sepharial’s restless wandering or Rudhyar’s clarity, Charubel emphasizes directed momentum within limits.
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Ada Muir
Symbol: "One whose mental faculties are above the average; versatility."
Interpretation: Intellectual agility and adaptability—practical yet expansive thinking.
USA (Sibley): Versatile 6th house approaches (e.g., multi-faceted healthcare), aligning with Bovee’s dual levels, though intercepted.
World: Adaptive global communication, with a spiritual edge per Bovee.
Adriano Carelli
Symbol: "A man playing a violin."
Interpretation: Creative, harmonious expression—communication as art, requiring skill.
USA (Sibley): In the 6th, persuasive health/work rhetoric, resonating with Bovee’s "luminous cheer" in service roles.
World: Artistic global dialogue, spiritually infused (Bovee), though interception softens.
HENSON -
Symbol: A wounded soldier drawing an arrow from his arm. A dog is howling near-by.
Denotes one of martial and impulsive nature who is liable to suffer from his restless temperament.
His imagination is prolific, but apt to run into wrong grooves and useless pathways. To such, self restraint and mental training is necessary, and a determination to employ his martial powers for high achievements. It is a symbol of Restlessness.
USA (Sibley): In the 6th, experimental labor/health policies (e.g., funding trials), with Bovee’s dual awareness adding depth.
World: Global resource games, spiritually nuanced per Bovee.
Franz Bardon
Interpretation: No direct degree symbol; Bardon’s mystical system links 15° (1+5=6) to harmony and Mercury’s communicative magic.
USA (Sibley): In the 6th, transformative words in service, echoing Bovee’s heavenly reverberation, though intercepted.
World: Global speech as a mystical tool, per Bovee’s netherworld connection.
David Cochrane
Interpretation: Harmonic theory suggests 14-15° Gemini has a Virgo sub-tone—analytical, service-oriented communication.
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USA (Sibley): In the 6th, passionate service efforts, aligning with Bovee’s cheerful resonance.
15� Gemini: A wounded soldier drawing an arrow from his arm. A dog is howling near-by.
Denotes one of martial and impulsive nature who is liable to suffer from his restless temperament. His imagination is prolific, but apt to run into wrong grooves and useless pathways. To such, self-restraint and mental training is necessary, and a determination to employ his martial powers for high achievements. It is a symbol of Restlessness.
USA (Sibley): In the 6th, visionary health/work ideas, with Bovee’s otherworldly light enhancing allure.
World: Enchanting global rhetoric, spiritually potent (Bovee).
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14-15 deg Gemini
This degree strongly suggests dishonesty. If the native is basically honest, upright and
straightforward this degree would at the very least suggest trickery in coloring the truth.
He seldom gets away with anything because there is also an element of exposure. Even so there is something which pushes him to keep trying.
This may range from outright dishonesty to more or less harmless games which test his ability. If most of the planets are in the upper half of the chart this may turn out to be a ridiculously funny game. Since in that case his every plan would be most obvious to everyone. If the planets are located below the horizon or the lower half of the chart the game may become pretty tricky and quite successful. There is a strong tendency to lie about anything and everything. However many respectable people have this degree activated in the chart without seriously destroying their character. So look to the rest of the chart for direction. It does denote a clever mentality. Much depends on where it is centered and the general setting.
USA (Sibley): In the 6th, diplomatic labor/health handling, resonating with Bovee’s supportive chat.
World: Tactful global exchanges, blessed by Bovee’s beyond.
Janduz
Symbol: "A woman standing in front of a cupboard filled with bottles and jars."
Interpretation: Resourcefulness—practical communication or nurturing inventory.
USA (Sibley): In the 6th, stockpiling health/work solutions, with Bovee’s dual awareness adding depth.
World: Resourceful global ideas, spiritually enriched (Bovee).
Synthesis: USA (Sibley Chart) and World
USA (Sibley Chart)
Jupiter at ~18-20° Gemini in 6th: Gemini 15 (~14° Gemini) flavors Jupiter’s vibe:
Work/Health: Bovee’s “Two Dutch children” suggests dual-layered service talks—practical and spiritual (e.g., healthcare reform with intuitive flair). Others add versatility (Muir, Cochrane), creativity (Carelli, Matthews, Kozminsky), or fragility (Charubel), with interception delaying impact.
Sibley Ties: Opposes Ascendant (12° Sagittarius), testing optimism; squares Moon (27° Aquarius), stirring public duality per Bovee.
Impact: A year of subtle, spiritually infused service efforts—work/health dialogues echo beyond, though muted.
World
Themes:
Communication: Bovee’s double entendre—surface and spirit—blends with visionary (Sepharial), tactful (Leinbach), or resourceful (Janduz) global talks. Charubel warns of breaks; Kozminsky adds enchantment.
Interception: Jupiter’s 6th house restraint slows global service/diplomacy gains (7th link).
Impact: A world of layered discourse—practical yet luminous—awaiting full expression.
Conclusion
Bovee’s Gemini 15—“Two Dutch children talking”—casts 2025 as a year of dual communication for the USA (Sibley) and world, with Jupiter in the 6th weaving spiritual depth into work/health. Other astrologers enrich this: Sepharial’s vision, Charubel’s caution, Muir’s versatility, and beyond. For the USA, service sectors hum with hidden light, tempered by interception; globally, words bridge worlds, per Bovee’s cheer, though delays persist.
how does it affect the 1801 and 1066 charts of UK
UK 1066 Chart Overview
Date: December 25, 1066, 12:00 PM LMT (noon, coronation of William I), Westminster, London.
Purpose: Marks the Norman Conquest and founding of modern England.
Gemini 15 (~14° Gemini) is ~4-6° from Jupiter’s position, close enough to flavor its influence symbolically.
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14-15 deg Gemini
Symbol: A seven-headed human being.
.........as the man in whose mind thought springs from thought farther and farther strays from his own aim as each new purpose damps the former one. -Dante, Purg. 5, 16-18
Should the native successfully stem the onrush of his mental turmoil and impose himself a method, an inner order and an intellectual discipline, the lively originality and the boundless manifoldness of
his versatile mind may recommend him to everyone’s admiration and open a bright career for him. I said if. Otherwise, his restless desultoriness will lead him to do too much at one time, getting bun all tied up in the knots of his scattered activity. What could have been original becomes eccentric; whatever is gained in extension is lost in depth.
Corrected Gemini 15° Symbols and Explanations
Blain Bovee: "Two Dutch children talking"
Meaning: Dual-layered communication—mundane and spiritual, with "luminous cheer" when secure, anxiety when not.
Dane Rudhyar: "Two Dutch children talking"
Meaning: Clarification—simple, unconditioned exchange distilling life to common elements, fostering ease or risking provincialism.
Sepharial: "A woman holding a bundle of faggots, her hair loose and disordered by the wind. She wanders in search of something"
Meaning: Restless quest—burdened, scattered seeking, persistent yet aimless.
Charubel: "A rapid inland stream which might be called a narrow river"
Meaning: Swift, focused flow—dynamic energy channeled narrowly, potent but limited.
Adriano Carelli: "A seven-headed human being"
Meaning: Multi-faceted mind—versatile brilliance if disciplined, scattered chaos if not.
Isidore Kozminsky: "A wounded soldier drawing an arrow from his arm. A dog is howling near-by"
Meaning: Kozminsky writes, "Denotes one of martial and impulsive nature who is liable to suffer from his restless temperament. His imagination is prolific, but apt to run into wrong grooves and useless pathways. To such, self-restraint and mental training is necessary, and a determination to employ his martial powers for high achievements. It is a symbol of Restlessness."
Explanation: This symbol portrays a figure of action (soldier) wounded by his own impulsivity (arrow), suffering (howling dog) from a restless, prolific mind that veers off course. It’s Gemini’s mental energy turned martial—dynamic but self-damaging without discipline, urging focus for noble ends.
Positive: Disciplined, high-achieving energy.
Negative: Self-inflicted harm, wasted potential.
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HENSON
14-15 deg Gemini
Literature; follows many callings; quick, adaptable, and ingenious; the kind of imagination that may
make one a great author or a confirmed liar; indecision; affects the eyes; scapula (shoulder blade).
14-15 deg Gemini
Alert, restless, aggressive, prolific imagination, reformative.
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Franz Bardon: (Inferred) Communicative magic (15° = 1+5 = 6, Mercury’s harmony)
Meaning: Transformative words—potent expression.
David Cochrane: (Inferred) Virgo sub-tone—analytical precision
Meaning: Detailed, practical communication.
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Corrected Gemini 15° Symbols and Explanations
Blain Bovee: "Two Dutch children talking"
Meaning: Dual-layered communication—mundane and spiritual, with "luminous cheer" when secure, anxiety when not.
Dane Rudhyar: "Two Dutch children talking"
Meaning: Clarification—simple, unconditioned exchange distilling life to common elements, fostering ease or risking provincialism.
Sepharial: "A woman holding a bundle of faggots, her hair loose and disordered by the wind. She wanders in search of something"
Meaning: Restless quest—burdened, scattered seeking, persistent yet aimless.
Charubel: "A rapid inland stream which might be called a narrow river"
Meaning: Swift, focused flow—dynamic energy channeled narrowly, potent but limited.
Adriano Carelli: "A seven-headed human being"
Meaning: Multi-faceted mind—versatile brilliance if disciplined, scattered chaos if not.
Isidore Kozminsky: "A wounded soldier drawing an arrow from his arm. A dog is howling near-by"
Meaning: Restless, impulsive nature—prolific imagination veering off, needing discipline to avoid self-harm and achieve high goals.
Janduz: "In a forest, a woman carries a bunch of wood on her back. She seems to look for something on the ground and does not notice the two-headed man who follows her"
Meaning: Janduz describes an "inventive, fickle, and restless character" overwhelmed by a "constant stream of ideas" needing sorting for their value to shine. This degree promises "good luck and… fame, wealth and happiness" if harnessed.
Explanation: The woman with wood (burdened effort) searches (restless focus) in a forest (complexity), unaware of the two-headed man (duality or hidden opportunity/threat). It’s Gemini’s ingenuity and restlessness, teeming with potential yet distracted—success hinges on focus.
Positive: Inventive success—luck and rewards.
Negative: Fickle overload—missed potential.
Ada Muir: "One whose mental faculties are above the average; versatility"
Meaning: Intellectual agility—broad, adaptable thinking.
Donna Walter Henson (Weber): "A youth throwing coins into a cup as if playing a game"
Meaning: Playful risk—light experimentation, possibly wasteful.
Franz Bardon: (Inferred) Communicative magic (15° = 1+5 = 6, Mercury’s harmony)
Meaning: Transformative words—potent expression.
David Cochrane: (Inferred) Virgo sub-tone—analytical precision
Meaning: Detailed, practical communication.
E.C. Matthews: "A carefree, artistic, passionate, and generous soul"
Meaning: Bohemian creativity—warm, unstructured expression.
Esther V. Leinbach: "A person with a natural ability to please others; tact and diplomacy"
Meaning: Social finesse—harmonious persuasion.
Degree Theory (Stojanovic): (Inferred) Mercury’s potency—communicative duality
Meaning: Articulate exchange—clear or over-talkative.
Aries Ingress 2025 Context
Jupiter: ~18-20° Gemini, 6th house (Aries cusp, Gemini intercepted), ruling 7th (Pisces intercepted).
Locations: London (Asc ~25-29° Sagittarius), Washington, D.C. (Asc ~27-29° Scorpio).
Gemini 15° (~14° Gemini): ~4-6° from Jupiter, flavoring its transit.
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Impact on UK 1801 Chart (Continued)
Transit: Jupiter in 9th (~15° Gemini cusp)
Aspects: Opposes Ascendant (8° Libra, wide), squares Jupiter (25° Cancer, 10th), trines Sun (~10° Capricorn, 4th).
Gemini 15° Effects
Bovee: Dual-layered 9th house talks resonate spiritually—e.g., trade with hidden depth.
Rudhyar: Clarifies diplomacy—e.g., simple trade terms, risking provincialism.
Sepharial: Restless quest burdens—e.g., scattered trade searches.
Charubel: Rapid stream focuses—e.g., fast trade flows narrowly.
Carelli: Multi-headed mind multiplies—e.g., versatile trade ideas tangle.
Kozminsky: Wounded soldier’s restlessness—e.g., impulsive trade moves wound UK’s stance.
Janduz: Woman with wood and two-headed follower—e.g., inventive trade efforts burdened by restless ideas, missing dual opportunities (two-headed man).
Positive: Sorted ideas bring luck—e.g., brilliant trade pacts win fame.
Negative: Fickle overload—e.g., distracted talks falter (interception delays).
Others: Muir (versatile), Henson (risky), Bardon (magical), Cochrane (precise), Matthews (passionate), Leinbach (tactful).
Outcome: Jupiter in 9th flows (Charubel), clarifies (Rudhyar), deepens (Bovee), seeks (Sepharial), sprawls (Carelli), wounds (Kozminsky), or invents (Janduz)—trade rushes inventively, muted by interception—e.g., brilliant ideas scatter, missing dual gains.
Impact on UK 1066 Chart
Transit: Jupiter in 3rd (~19° Gemini cusp)
Aspects: Squares Moon (29° Pisces, 12th), opposes Uranus (29° Sagittarius, 9th), squares Jupiter (~18° Virgo, 6th, exact).
Gemini 15° Effects
Bovee: Dual local talks resonate—e.g., health media with spiritual echo.
Rudhyar: Clarifies communication—e.g., simple health messages.
Sepharial: Wandering quest scatters—e.g., burdened local chatter.
Charubel: Rapid stream flows—e.g., fast health campaigns.
Carelli: Multi-headed mind tangles—e.g., versatile health ideas stray.
Kozminsky: Wounded soldier’s restlessness—e.g., impulsive health talk wounds efforts.
Janduz: Woman with wood and two-headed follower—e.g., inventive health campaigns burdened by restless ideas, missing dual insights.
Positive: Sorted ideas bring luck—e.g., brilliant NHS talk wins acclaim.
Negative: Fickle overload—e.g., distracted efforts falter (interception stalls).
Others: Muir (versatile), Henson (risky), Bardon (magical), Cochrane (precise), Matthews (passionate), Leinbach (tactful).
Outcome: Jupiter in 3rd/6th surges (Charubel), simplifies (Rudhyar), deepens (Bovee), seeks (Sepharial), sprawls (Carelli), wounds (Kozminsky), or invents (Janduz)—health talk rushes inventively, limited by squares/interception—e.g., brilliant ideas scatter, missing depth.
Impact on USA Sibley Chart
Transit: Jupiter in 7th (~12° Gemini cusp)
Aspects: Opposes Ascendant (12° Sagittarius), squares Moon (27° Aquarius, 3rd), squares Jupiter (~5°56' Cancer, 7th, wide).
Gemini 15° Effects
Bovee: Dual alliances echo spiritually—e.g., US-UK depth.
Rudhyar: Clarifies pacts—e.g., simple trade terms.
Sepharial: Restless quest scatters—e.g., burdened diplomacy.
Charubel: Rapid stream focuses—e.g., fast pacts.
Carelli: Multi-headed mind multiplies—e.g., versatile relations tangle.
Kozminsky: Wounded soldier’s restlessness—e.g., impulsive alliances wound US stance.
Janduz: Woman with wood and two-headed follower—e.g., inventive diplomacy burdened by restless ideas, missing dual opportunities.
Positive: Sorted ideas bring luck—e.g., brilliant pacts win wealth.
Negative: Fickle overload—e.g., distracted talks falter (interception delays).
Others: Muir (versatile), Henson (risky), Bardon (magical), Cochrane (precise), Matthews (passionate), Leinbach (tactful).
Outcome: Jupiter in 7th streams (Charubel), clarifies (Rudhyar), deepens (Bovee), seeks (Sepharial), sprawls (Carelli), wounds (Kozminsky), or invents (Janduz)—alliances rush inventively, muted by interception—e.g., brilliant ideas scatter, missing gains.
World in General
Gemini 15° Effects
6th House:
Bovee: Spiritual service talk—e.g., health with depth.
Rudhyar: Clear work/health—e.g., simple labor standards.
Sepharial: Burdened health quest—e.g., scattered efforts.
Charubel: Swift service flow—e.g., fast health moves.
Carelli: Versatile health ideas—e.g., multi-faceted plans tangle.
Kozminsky: Restless health rush—e.g., impulsive moves wound.
Janduz: Inventive health efforts—e.g., brilliant ideas scatter, missing dual potential (intercepted).
7th House:
Bovee: Spiritual pacts—e.g., deep diplomacy.
Rudhyar: Clear relations—e.g., simple treaties.
Sepharial: Burdened diplomatic quest—e.g., scattered talks.
Charubel: Swift pacts—e.g., fast agreements.
Carelli: Versatile diplomacy—e.g., multi-headed plans tangle.
Kozminsky: Restless pacts—e.g., impulsive moves wound.
Janduz: Inventive relations—e.g., brilliant pacts falter, missing duality (intercepted).
Outcome: A world flows (Charubel), clarifies (Rudhyar), deepens (Bovee), seeks (Sepharial), sprawls (Carelli), wounds (Kozminsky), or invents (Janduz)—2025 rushes with restless brilliance, tempered by interception.
Corrected Synthesis with All Degrees
Bovee: Dual talk enriches—spiritual resonance.
Rudhyar: Clarifies simply—practical ease.
Sepharial: Restless quest burdens—scattered search.
Charubel: Rapid stream focuses—swift flow.
Carelli: Multi-headed mind multiplies—versatile chaos/brilliance.
Kozminsky: Wounded soldier wounds—restless impulsivity.
Janduz: Woman with wood invents—restless ingenuity, missing duality.
Others: Muir (versatile), Henson (risky), Bardon (magical), Cochrane (precise), Matthews (passionate), Leinbach (tactful).
UK 1801: 9th house flows (Charubel), clarifies (Rudhyar), deepens (Bovee), seeks (Sepharial), sprawls (Carelli), wounds (Kozminsky), or invents (Janduz)—e.g., trade rushes inventively, scatters.
UK 1066: 3rd/6th surges (Charubel), simplifies (Rudhyar), resonates (Bovee), wanders (Sepharial), tangles (Carelli), wounds (Kozminsky), or invents (Janduz)—e.g., health talk strays brilliantly.
USA Sibley: 7th streams (Charubel), clarifies (Rudhyar), echoes (Bovee), quests (Sepharial), multiplies (Carelli), wounds (Kozminsky), or invents (Janduz)—e.g., alliances rush inventively, falter.
World: Dynamic (Charubel), clear (Rudhyar), spiritual (Bovee), seeking (Sepharial), versatile (Carelli), restless (Kozminsky), or inventive (Janduz)—2025 teems with scattered potential.
Conclusion
With Janduz’s correct Gemini 15°—"In a forest, a woman carries a bunch of wood on her back. She seems to look for something on the ground and does not notice the two-headed man who follows her"—Jupiter’s 2025 transit becomes an inventive, restless surge:
UK 1801: 9th house diplomacy invents brilliantly or scatters—e.g., trade misses dual gains.
UK 1066: 3rd/6th service talk invents or tangles—e.g., health efforts stray ingeniously.
USA Sibley: 7th house alliances invent or falter—e.g., pacts rush inventively, wound (Kozminsky).
World: A global rush flows (Charubel), clarifies (Rudhyar), deepens (Bovee), seeks (Sepharial), sprawls (Carelli), wounds (Kozminsky), or invents (Janduz)—2025 teeters on restless brilliance, muted by interception.