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🔹 Saturn / Pluto

Long-term structural activations

Saturn = delays, court filings, bureaucratic stalling

Pluto = deep network exposure, resignations, death of protective barriers

When Saturn/Pluto hit 27° Aries or Cancer → major institutional scrutiny, investigations, or paradigm shifts

saturn/apollon
Greg Young <gregyoung011@gmail.com> Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 3:52 PM
To: "astrofaith@aol.com" <astrofaith@aol.com>
to give the full picture its sat/zeus square Kronos

witte says - To have mighty enemies. Misery caused through power of the state. To make an enemy of the power of the state.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 3:44 PM Greg Young <gregyoung011@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh wow..is that the actual page from the website - or been added to?

anywhoo..I use a timing device for a weekly chart and then time it like a clock for the event

and the event landed on saturn/apollon..

the story was this -

In January 2025, Sarah Inama, a sixth-grade teacher at Lewis and Clark Middle School in Meridian, Idaho, was instructed to remove a classroom sign reading “Everyone is Welcome Here” due to the West Ada School District’s policy against non-content-neutral displays, which administrators claimed violated Idaho’s Dignity and Nondiscrimination in Public Education Act by expressing a political opinion. Inama initially complied but later re-hung the sign, sparking national attention, student walkouts, and widespread support, though she faced warnings of insubordination and resigned on May 9, 2025, citing misalignment with the district’s exclusionary stance

On Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 3:09 PM astrofaith@aol.com <astrofaith@aol.com> wrote:

i've expanded the blog entry but but the basics are in there
Saturn/Apollon

RPP: Many separate or depart

Saturn/Apollon=AP - Separate from many or the generality

. . .



· Identify with a group or region

· Divide people (even physically)

· Negatives: exclusion, snobs, racists, segregationists



Ordinary manifestations: grow up as a member of a minority or being in a minority as a result of relocation.





Identify with a group or locale. Regionalism. May limit expansion beyond

· Country/western musicians left to right::

Tammy Wynette N. Sun=Saturn/Apollon

George Jones N. Jupiter=Saturn/Apollon

Willie Nelson Saturn/Apollon=AP/Asc.

Marty Robbins N. Saturn=Apollon 22 ½ - 1’ orb





Event: Taylor Swift started as a country singer; moved to Nashville signed her 1st deal. 9/2004. P. Saturn square P. Apollon exactly.







· Other regions (left to right):

Regional art movement giant – Thomas Hart Benton (Saturn//Apollon)

Minstrel composer – Stephen Foster (Saturn/Apollon=AP)

Directed Italian opera in Austria: Antionio Salieri (Saturn/Apollon=AP/64H 3’ orb)

· Non-Latino Latin musician. Jupiter=Saturn/Apollon- Cal Djader







· Event: Directed Yiddish version of Fiddler on the Roof. P. Saturn=Apollon 3’ orb (left). N. Sun=Saturn/Apollon (64H/2’ orb – 2nd from left) Joel Grey



· Event: Sampled foreign/regional music/dance styles: cancan, gypsy dance, a march and English music hall in Redhead. T. Apollon=N. Saturn 23’ orb (2nd from right) . Natal Sun=Saturn/Apollon (64H/5’ orb – right) Bob Fosse











Identify with a particular group



Founder of the 1st Black labor union, Brotherhood of Pullman Porters (left)



"Black Mafia" founder * Samuel Christian N. Saturn/Apollon=Aries March 20/1939 (Sun/Mars/Aries=Saturn/Apollon <30’ orb. (right)



Fashion

Ralph Lauren sells a luxury brand, N. Saturn=Apollon (=Uranus see Uranus/Apollon expansion by leaps and bounds) Exclusivity: Bloomingdales opened Polo, it’s first “shop within a shop” with products sold exclusively there. * * https://306127602.wixsite.com/yifanfashion/ralph-lauren-history

Ralph’s Lauren’s Polo is launched. T. Saturn triggered natal configuration (left) Saturn/Apollon SA AP (right - see Uranus/Apollon for expansion by leaps and bounds)









·





Fashion and business

Ralph Lauren’s brand is exclusive. N. Saturn=Apollon (=Uranus see Uranus/Apollon expansion by leaps and bounds) Exclusivity: Bloomingdales opened Polo, it’s first “shop within a shop” with products sold exclusively there. * * https://306127602.wixsite.com/yifanfashion/ralph-lauren-history

Ralph’s Lauren’s Polo is launched. T. Saturn triggered natal configuration (left) Saturn/Apollon SA AP (right - see Uranus/Apollon for expansion by leaps and bounds)



News event:

May 19, 1989 Ürümqi unrest
August 10—11 1889

Muslim demonstrators in China, asking for government to punish author of a book disrespecting Muslims.* (Left: see Neptune/Kronos: ineffectual government, Saturn/Kronos problems with leaders)

* https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/05/12/Chinese-Moslems-protest-sexual-practices-book/8606610948800/



Saturn/Apollon conjunction August 5-13, 1888 (right).

Atheists allowed to sit to sit in the House of Commons of the United Kingdom.*
*Church and State in 21st Century Britain: The Future of Church Establishment (ed. R.M. Morris: Palgrave Macmillan, 2009), p. 21.*



Local Government Act established county and borough councils and redrew boundaries in the UK. *

* https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1888/41/pdfs/ukpga_18880041_en.pdf

Order of the President of the Local Government Board



Interestingly, two important travel events occurred during the same conjunction.

The first engine-driven flight in a motorized airship traveled about 10km*

The fist “long distance” drive in automotive history, 64km. *

These were relatively short distances compared with the distance traveled by

existing transportation of the time.





Work is inaccessible to most people:

Left to right: Arnold Schoenberg*, James Joyce**, Ezra Pound *** (Mercury at the midpoint), Wittgenstein****



“



* Why Is Schoenberg’s Music So Difficult to Understand? - Oxford Scholarship (mit.edu)_

** is-james-joyce-ulysses-the-hardest-novel-to-finish.

www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2016/jan/13.

*** difficulty with reading Ezra Pound. https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/ezra-pound

****Wittgenstein A Guide for the Perplexed, Mark Addy



Racists

· Bardot fined six times for expressing racial hatred in books and letters*

Aspect shown on a 22 ½o dial (left)

*https://nypost.com/2021/11/05/brigitte-bardot-fined-for-inciting-racial-hatred-6th-time/

· George Wallace, segregationist* (center) * https://www.biography.com/political-figures/george-wallace

· Winston Churchill advocated against black or indigenous self-rule on 5 continents. * (right)

· *https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29701767







Hitler had Saturn//Apollon and Sun=Saturn/Apollon 64H/2’ orb









Cult leaders who isolated their members were born 4 days apart, with the identical aspect. Jim Jones and Marshall Applewhite





Art: Saturn/Apollon division operating physically

(Saturn/Apollon and Jupiter/Apollon in the same chart)

Artist divided the audience within semi-enclosed tunnels to give small groups diffracted experiences of the action (Saturn/Apollon ). He was a multi-media artist who grew up rich. (Jupiter/Apollon- Robert Whitman 5/23/1935 no TOB)









. . .



Limited travel. Cancelled or shortened trip.

Problematic travel events.



· Event: Trip to Africa cut short when her father died. Queen Elizabeth II Saturn/Apollon SA MC 6’ orb. (Left – no natal)



· Scandal revealed in a foreign country derailed career of Jerry Lee Lewis.

· Event: British newspapers learn/reveal he married his 13 year old cousin.

Saturn/Apollon SA Aries 7’ orb (right)

N. Saturn/Apollon=Aries (=Sun 64H/5’ orb – not shown)





Died while traveling

David Carradine died in Thailand. SR Sun=Saturn/Apollon. No natal. Left



Eddie Cochran died in a car crash in the UK. SR Sun=Saturn/Apollon 3’ orb

No natal. Right





Event: Charlie Chaplin was traveling when he learned he was banned from returning to the US.* SR Saturn/Apollon=Aries=Mars. Natal Saturn//Apollon. *https://progressive.org/magazine/charlie-chaplin-hollywood-s-political-exile/



News event: First spacecraft to orbit the moon. “The early end of the one-year mission resulted from a shortage of remaining attitude control gas.” *

* Lunar Orbiter Program - NASA Science





Group was born between April and June in 1889 had Saturn//Apollon. <1o orb.

They illustrate the range of delineations.

· Regional artist: Thomas Hart Benton

· Civil rights activist, led 1st black labor union Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters, A. Phillip Randolph

· Son of Swiss nationals grew up in Moscow, before returning to Switzerland

· Accused of ethnic cleansing; denied Jewish entry in WWII and shipped Japanese to American detention camps. Peruvian President Manuel Carlos Prado y Ugartech* *https://www.limaeasy.com/peru-guide/history-of-peru/political-history-of-peru/peru-from-1930-to-1968

· Wittgenstein: “Difficult if not impossible to understand” * Ludwig Wittgenstein *The Wittgenstein Interpretation Industry | by Paul Austin Murphy | Paul Austin Murphy’s Essays on Philosophy | Medium

· Ostracized by most of the world for cruel colonial policy in Africa* Dictator Antonio Salazar * https://lisbonlisboaportugal.com/Lisbon-information/Antonio-Oliveira-Salazar-portugal-2.html

· Adolph Hitler

· The father and the housemate who hid with Anne Frank. She had natal Saturn=Apollon=Chiron

· White musician claimed he invented jazz and Black people had nothing to do with it. He belittled his own colleagues as well. * *https://syncopatedtimes.com/nick-larocca-1889-1961/

· Champion of British music*: Adrian Bolt *British Organ Music” P. 73 Peter Hardwick



RPP The system. Method. Teaching. Teacher. Pupil.

Aries/Saturn=Apollon Teacher.



Many anecdotal instances of Saturn/Apollon and education

A method is taught

Ludwig Wittgenstein taught at Cambridge, but he also taught in public school.

Event: He began “fall of 1920”* (Left)

*From Frege to Wittgenstein: Perspectives on Early Analytic Philosophy edited by Erich Rech P. 21



Helen Keller’s teacher Anne Sullivan N. st. Mars=Saturn/Apollon 64H/<3’ orb (2nd from left) Event: she began 3/3/1887 * T. Mars=Saturn/Apollon (2nd from right) 26’ orb (right)

*American Federation for the Blind 2009 “Anne Sullvan Macy Biography”









A planet at the midpoint is an adjective:

Bauhaus School founder; Master of modern architecture, “Walter Gropius turned

a craft school into the powerhouse of an art movement that became a cornerstone of Modernism”. * He later taught at Harvard.



Event: When P. Saturn=Apollon he was designer and architect for the school building for the Bauhaus School of Art, Design and Architecture, combining two school into the building, the design school and the municipal vocational school.** (serving distinct specialities! An astro double-entendre). Natal: Saturn=Apollon=Vesta

*www.moma.org/artists/2359#:~:text=Walter%20Adolph%20Georg%20Gropius%20(18,pioneer

ing%20masters%20of%20modernist%20architecture.

** Markgraf, Monica (2017) Bauhaus World Heritage Site. Leipzip: Spector Books.











Saturn/Apollon

RPP: Many separate or depart

Saturn/Apollon=AP - Separate from many or the generality

. . .



· Identify with a group or region

· Divide people (even physically)

· Negatives: exclusion, snobs, racists, segregationists



Ordinary manifestations: grow up as a member of a minority or being in a minority as a result of relocation.





Identify with a group or locale. Regionalism. May limit expansion beyond

· Country/western musicians left to right::

Tammy Wynette N. Sun=Saturn/Apollon

George Jones N. Jupiter=Saturn/Apollon

Willie Nelson Saturn/Apollon=AP/Asc.

Marty Robbins N. Saturn=Apollon 22 ½ - 1’ orb





Event: Taylor Swift started as a country singer; moved to Nashville signed her 1st deal. 9/2004. P. Saturn square P. Apollon exactly.







· Other regions (left to right):

Regional art movement giant – Thomas Hart Benton (Saturn//Apollon)

Minstrel composer – Stephen Foster (Saturn/Apollon=AP)

Directed Italian opera in Austria: Antionio Salieri (Saturn/Apollon=AP/64H 3’ orb)

· Non-Latino Latin musician. Jupiter=Saturn/Apollon- Cal Djader







· Event: Directed Yiddish version of Fiddler on the Roof. P. Saturn=Apollon 3’ orb (left). N. Sun=Saturn/Apollon (64H/2’ orb – 2nd from left) Joel Grey



· Event: Sampled foreign/regional music/dance styles: cancan, gypsy dance, a march and English music hall in Redhead. T. Apollon=N. Saturn 23’ orb (2nd from right) . Natal Sun=Saturn/Apollon (64H/5’ orb – right) Bob Fosse











Identify with a particular group



Founder of the 1st Black labor union, Brotherhood of Pullman Porters (left)



"Black Mafia" founder * Samuel Christian N. Saturn/Apollon=Aries March 20/1939 (Sun/Mars/Aries=Saturn/Apollon <30’ orb. (right)



Fashion

Ralph Lauren sells a luxury brand, N. Saturn=Apollon (=Uranus see Uranus/Apollon expansion by leaps and bounds) Exclusivity: Bloomingdales opened Polo, it’s first “shop within a shop” with products sold exclusively there. * * https://306127602.wixsite.com/yifanfashion/ralph-lauren-history

Ralph’s Lauren’s Polo is launched. T. Saturn triggered natal configuration (left) Saturn/Apollon SA AP (right - see Uranus/Apollon for expansion by leaps and bounds)









·





Fashion and business

Ralph Lauren’s brand is exclusive. N. Saturn=Apollon (=Uranus see Uranus/Apollon expansion by leaps and bounds) Exclusivity: Bloomingdales opened Polo, it’s first “shop within a shop” with products sold exclusively there. * * https://306127602.wixsite.com/yifanfashion/ralph-lauren-history

Ralph’s Lauren’s Polo is launched. T. Saturn triggered natal configuration (left) Saturn/Apollon SA AP (right - see Uranus/Apollon for expansion by leaps and bounds)



News event:

May 19, 1989 Ürümqi unrest
August 10—11 1889

Muslim demonstrators in China, asking for government to punish author of a book disrespecting Muslims.* (Left: see Neptune/Kronos: ineffectual government, Saturn/Kronos problems with leaders)

* https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/05/12/Chinese-Moslems-protest-sexual-practices-book/8606610948800/



Saturn/Apollon conjunction August 5-13, 1888 (right).

Atheists allowed to sit to sit in the House of Commons of the United Kingdom.*
*Church and State in 21st Century Britain: The Future of Church Establishment (ed. R.M. Morris: Palgrave Macmillan, 2009), p. 21.*



Local Government Act established county and borough councils and redrew boundaries in the UK. *

* https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1888/41/pdfs/ukpga_18880041_en.pdf

Order of the President of the Local Government Board



Interestingly, two important travel events occurred during the same conjunction.

The first engine-driven flight in a motorized airship traveled about 10km*

The fist “long distance” drive in automotive history, 64km. *

These were relatively short distances compared with the distance traveled by

existing transportation of the time.





Work is inaccessible to most people:

Left to right: Arnold Schoenberg*, James Joyce**, Ezra Pound *** (Mercury at the midpoint), Wittgenstein****



“



* Why Is Schoenberg’s Music So Difficult to Understand? - Oxford Scholarship (mit.edu)_

** is-james-joyce-ulysses-the-hardest-novel-to-finish.

www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2016/jan/13.

*** difficulty with reading Ezra Pound. https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/ezra-pound

****Wittgenstein A Guide for the Perplexed, Mark Addy



Racists

· Bardot fined six times for expressing racial hatred in books and letters*

Aspect shown on a 22 ½o dial (left)

*https://nypost.com/2021/11/05/brigitte-bardot-fined-for-inciting-racial-hatred-6th-time/

· George Wallace, segregationist* (center) * https://www.biography.com/political-figures/george-wallace

· Winston Churchill advocated against black or indigenous self-rule on 5 continents. * (right)

· *https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29701767







Hitler had Saturn//Apollon and Sun=Saturn/Apollon 64H/2’ orb









Cult leaders who isolated their members were born 4 days apart, with the identical aspect. Jim Jones and Marshall Applewhite





Art: Saturn/Apollon division operating physically

(Saturn/Apollon and Jupiter/Apollon in the same chart)

Artist divided the audience within semi-enclosed tunnels to give small groups diffracted experiences of the action (Saturn/Apollon ). He was a multi-media artist who grew up rich. (Jupiter/Apollon- Robert Whitman 5/23/1935 no TOB)









. . .



Limited travel. Cancelled or shortened trip.

Problematic travel events.



· Event: Trip to Africa cut short when her father died. Queen Elizabeth II Saturn/Apollon SA MC 6’ orb. (Left – no natal)



· Scandal revealed in a foreign country derailed career of Jerry Lee Lewis.

· Event: British newspapers learn/reveal he married his 13 year old cousin.

Saturn/Apollon SA Aries 7’ orb (right)

N. Saturn/Apollon=Aries (=Sun 64H/5’ orb – not shown)





Died while traveling

David Carradine died in Thailand. SR Sun=Saturn/Apollon. No natal. Left



Eddie Cochran died in a car crash in the UK. SR Sun=Saturn/Apollon 3’ orb

No natal. Right





Event: Charlie Chaplin was traveling when he learned he was banned from returning to the US.* SR Saturn/Apollon=Aries=Mars. Natal Saturn//Apollon. *https://progressive.org/magazine/charlie-chaplin-hollywood-s-political-exile/



News event: First spacecraft to orbit the moon. “The early end of the one-year mission resulted from a shortage of remaining attitude control gas.” *

* Lunar Orbiter Program - NASA Science





Group was born between April and June in 1889 had Saturn//Apollon. <1o orb.

They illustrate the range of delineations.

· Regional artist: Thomas Hart Benton

· Civil rights activist, led 1st black labor union Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters, A. Phillip Randolph

· Son of Swiss nationals grew up in Moscow, before returning to Switzerland

· Accused of ethnic cleansing; denied Jewish entry in WWII and shipped Japanese to American detention camps. Peruvian President Manuel Carlos Prado y Ugartech* *https://www.limaeasy.com/peru-guide/history-of-peru/political-history-of-peru/peru-from-1930-to-1968

· Wittgenstein: “Difficult if not impossible to understand” * Ludwig Wittgenstein *The Wittgenstein Interpretation Industry | by Paul Austin Murphy | Paul Austin Murphy’s Essays on Philosophy | Medium

· Ostracized by most of the world for cruel colonial policy in Africa* Dictator Antonio Salazar * Antonio de Oliveira Salazar


Antonio de Oliveira Salazar


· Adolph Hitler

· The father and the housemate who hid with Anne Frank. She had natal Saturn=Apollon=Chiron

· White musician claimed he invented jazz and Black people had nothing to do with it. He belittled his own colleagues as well. * *https://syncopatedtimes.com/nick-larocca-1889-1961/

· Champion of British music*: Adrian Bolt *British Organ Music” P. 73 Peter Hardwick



RPP The system. Method. Teaching. Teacher. Pupil.

Aries/Saturn=Apollon Teacher.



Many anecdotal instances of Saturn/Apollon and education

A method is taught

Ludwig Wittgenstein taught at Cambridge, but he also taught in public school.

Event: He began “fall of 1920”* (Left)

*From Frege to Wittgenstein: Perspectives on Early Analytic Philosophy edited by Erich Rech P. 21



Helen Keller’s teacher Anne Sullivan N. st. Mars=Saturn/Apollon 64H/<3’ orb (2nd from left) Event: she began 3/3/1887 * T. Mars=Saturn/Apollon (2nd from right) 26’ orb (right)

*American Federation for the Blind 2009 “Anne Sullvan Macy Biography”









A planet at the midpoint is an adjective:

Bauhaus School founder; Master of modern architecture, “Walter Gropius turned

a craft school into the powerhouse of an art movement that became a cornerstone of Modernism”. * He later taught at Harvard.



Event: When P. Saturn=Apollon he was designer and architect for the school building for the Bauhaus School of Art, Design and Architecture, combining two school into the building, the design school and the municipal vocational school.** (serving distinct specialities! An astro double-entendre). Natal: Saturn=Apollon=Vesta

*www.moma.org/artists/2359#:~:text=Walter%20Adolph%20Georg%20Gropius%20(18,pioneer

ing%20masters%20of%20modernist%20architecture.

** Markgraf, Monica (2017) Bauhaus World Heritage Site. Leipzip: Spector Books.

from SATURN

UR/PL
Grouping
+SA = Abrupt disruption of hitherto development. Separations (of nuclear power) that suddenly bring a change in life over night.

IRANS NUCLEAR BASE BLOWN UP BY TRUMP

STARMERS WELFARE BILL OPPOSED BY OWN MP'S

Standing up for our lifestyle deepens our character and inspires in us a faith that we belong

An old adobe mission is a traditional image of a real, robust answer to the problems of how to survive and make a living – which is required because we live within a testing environment. What helps to ensure our physical survival as a species is the durability of what protects us as individuals – and, to offer such shelter, these missions were constructed to be strong and permanent. They were more than resources to support settlers materially; the spiritual side was also central to their purpose.

There is an unbroken continuity between the certainty of our material needs and the depth of our psychological needs – simply because we are at risk physically, we are vulnerable emotionally. So, as we invest our loyalties into a certain approach to coping with the physicality of life, we inevitably align with shared emotional realities too – such as having faith that we belong.

How and where we build our home and place of worship not only speaks about our loyalties, preferences, history and expectations – it determines a great deal of what we become. The heritage of our enduring ties stands as a reminder of what has continuing value to us, and which must be neither neglected nor underrated if we are to realise our individual potential.

A compelling depth of character arises from the respect we assign to our heritage. It is almost inevitable that we will, at some point, be called upon to defend and protect what we think of as home, family and community. If we have nowhere to stand, then we cannot really stand for anything.

This deeper approach to life’s established values actually also gives rise to an effective breadth of vision. The future needs to unfold within particular parameters in order to keep alive the tradition we have adopted, and which has adopted us. Our choices about direction are made with reference to the past since we understand that a rich and deep history can underpin a rich and deep future.

One thing we need to be careful of is that such a complete observance of old ways can easily lead to a total lack of ambition, and also a blind adherence to superficialities that have been crystallised into community values. This can be avoided if we are always aware of who we are, what we are doing, and why.

An aware person is tested to remember their own true spiritual state at all times; this is a necessity for both an overall orientation and an underlying stability in all personal existence. In a world of deceit and illusion, where nothing is ever completely fixed in time, this presents a prodigious challenge.

​An old adobe mission
Picture
Commentary from Richard Grey
No - lasting forms | standing up for our lifestyle | physical survival | defence | choices
Hello - our psychological needs
Thanks - lasting values | emotional vulnerability | loyalties | shared emotional realities
Goodbye - the act of building | the decision about what to build (based on values)
Please - group endeavour (cooperation) | a testing environment | having faith
Sorry - blind adherence | awareness | avoidance (of superficialities)
Yes - respect | spiritual state
This is all about Thanks - Our Values. Those we choose and how we attempt to make them last or Endure into the Future.

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Aquarius 1. Deciding to die, a vampire walks into the sunlight. (Omega Symbol) Manifesting/Experimental

(Degree Angel: YEZALEL (YAY-za-LEL) Heaven on Earth, Fidelity, Loyalty, and Allegiance)

This degree is about the sacrificing of personal desires to a higher purpose. When a way of life has worn itself out, its time for a change. The energy of this degree is about overcoming the fear of change, and letting go of old patterns. It wants to bring whatever is hidden to light, and to find a way to fulfill true spiritual needs.

The Chandra Symbol for this degree is “A two-headed calf.” We all have two selves – the conscious, objective self and the unconscious, or feeling self. Or, on an other level, (as Eckhard Tolle describes it), the true self and the pain body. This degree recognizes the divisions that exist within the self, as well as the need to acknowledge and respect all the various aspects of one's being. Whatever parts of ourselves we reject we inevitably come into conflict with, and the only way to resolve this conflict is to reach across our inner divisions and accept every aspect of who we are.

This degree carries the message that completely opposite ideas can peacefully co-exist, and actually have the potential to enhance and clarify each other.

Pleiadian Symbol: In the desert a way station to comfort travelers.

Azoth Symbol: Little scavengers seeking morsels.

Seed degree: Aries 11.A hospital for birds. (Omega Symbol). The healing of our hopes allows us to expose all inner shadows to the spiritual light.

Sunlight illuminating dust in the air. (Chandra Symbol). Perceiving the complexity and uncertainty of the physical world gives us a basis for perceiving dualities and dichotomies at work everywhere.

Fulfillment degree: Aries 26. A man sitting at the bottom of a crater. (Omega Symbol). Clearing inner darkness we then become able to be focused and receptive.

The man in the moon smiling. (Chandra Symbol). Completely accepting the dualistic nature of our existence brings peace and fulfillment to our emotional self.

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Aquarius 1: An old adobe mission
In for the long haul...

Endurance is a characteristic of Aquarius 1. Think of the adobe missions built in the early settling of California. They still stand today.

As a human characteristic, endurance suggests that something worth pursuing is worth pursuing all the way. Looking to the fixed mate Scorpio symbol "A sight-seeing bus", we get the feeling of the expression, "You buy your ticket and you take your ride"... in other words, once you have committed to a bus ride, you tend to follow through on where it takes you.

Another thread of sense in Aquarius 1 is that of 'starting'. Indeed all 1st degree symbols point to a start of some kind. For Aquarius 30, the start is a 'mission'... something to set out for, to work on... that follows the decisions made in Capricorn 30.

So, imagine a powwow where a bold new policy or project is considered. Here in the 1st degree Aquarius, we find the resolve to get out there and make it happen.

Understanding Saturn and Zeus in Uranian Astrology
Uranian astrology, developed by Alfred Witte, uses hypothetical trans-Neptunian points (TNPs) like Zeus, alongside traditional planets like Saturn, to add depth to chart interpretations. Midpoints, such as Saturn/Zeus, are a key tool in this system, representing the combined energy of two points as it influences a third point or axis in a chart.
Saturn: In astrology, Saturn represents structure, limitation, discipline, and karmic lessons. It’s associated with restriction, time, aging, and the hard realities of life, often bringing a sense of heaviness, loss, or enforced responsibility. In Uranian astrology, Saturn also carries themes of separation, isolation, and enduring challenges, sometimes linked to physical or emotional withdrawal.

Zeus: Zeus is a hypothetical TNP named after the Greek god of thunder and leadership. It symbolizes directed energy, procreation, leadership, and forceful creation—often associated with precision, machinery, military endeavors, and fiery, transformative power. Zeus is tied to goal-oriented action, invention, and the drive to achieve through focused effort. In medical astrology, it can relate to inflammation or burns, reflecting its fiery nature.

Saturn/Zeus Midpoint: The combination of Saturn and Zeus blends Saturn’s restrictive, disciplined energy with Zeus’s fiery, directed force. This midpoint often signifies:
Controlled Power: Harnessing intense energy (Zeus) within strict boundaries (Saturn), such as disciplined leadership, precise engineering, or military strategy.

Tension and Struggle: The opposition between Saturn’s limitation and Zeus’s drive can lead to frustration, forced effort, or suppressed energy, sometimes manifesting as explosive breakthroughs or destructive outcomes (e.g., fires, accidents).

Loss Through Force: Saturn/Zeus can indicate loss or separation (Saturn) due to forceful events (Zeus), such as fires, military actions, or mechanical failures. It’s also linked to hard labor under pressure, where one must endure challenges to achieve a goal.

Historical Examples: In mundane astrology, Saturn/Zeus has been associated with events involving controlled destruction or loss through force. For instance, the 1927 Mississippi River flood had Saturn/Zeus prominent, reflecting loss (Saturn) through a forceful natural event (Zeus). Similarly, in medical contexts, it might point to injuries from machinery or inflammation under stress. Jeff Bezos wedding in Venice-VE sq SA/ZE

Connection to UFOs: Symbolic and Astrological Analysis
UFOs, or unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs), are often tied to the unknown, innovation, and collective fascination with the cosmos. Astrologically, UFO phenomena are more directly associated with planets like Uranus (sudden events, technology, the unconventional) and Neptune (mystery, illusion, the ethereal), or points like Poseidon (higher knowledge, cosmic connection) in Uranian astrology. However, Saturn/Zeus can be explored for a potential connection through its symbolic themes and historical correlations.
Symbolic Connection
Controlled Technology and the Unknown: Saturn/Zeus’s association with precision machinery and directed focussed energy could symbolically relate to UFOs as advanced technology. Saturn’s grounding influence might reflect humanity’s attempt to structure or control (e.g., through military or scientific study) the chaotic, unknown nature of UFOs (Zeus’s fiery, dynamic energy). For example, government programs like the U.S. Pentagon’s UAP Task Force (active as of 2021–2025) involve disciplined investigation (Saturn) of unexplained aerial phenomena (Zeus’s innovation and force).

Tension and Revelation: Saturn/Zeus often indicates suppressed energy that eventually erupts. This could mirror the societal tension around UFOs—decades of secrecy (Saturn) followed by sudden disclosures or events (Zeus). The 2021 UAP report release by the U.S. government, which sparked global interest, might align with such a dynamic if Saturn/Zeus was prominent in the event chart, reflecting the struggle to contain (Saturn) a powerful, transformative phenomenon (Zeus).

Military and UFOs: Zeus’s connection to military endeavors ties directly to UFO history, as many sightings involve military personnel (e.g., the 2004 USS Nimitz encounter). Saturn/Zeus could symbolize the military’s disciplined response (Saturn) to unexplained, forceful phenomena (Zeus), such as radar anomalies or high-speed objects. The structured secrecy around these events (Saturn) combined with their dynamic, energetic nature (Zeus) fits the midpoint’s energy.

Astrological Context (May 15, 2025)
To assess Saturn/Zeus’s connection to UFOs, we can consider its role in a mundane context or event chart:
Saturn and Zeus Positions: On May 15, 2025, Saturn is in Aries (around 15–20 degrees, based on its transit from Pisces into Aries in early 2025), and Zeus, a slow-moving hypothetical point, is likely around 20–25 Libra (based on historical positions, e.g., 15 Libra in 2010, moving about 1 degree per year). The Saturn/Zeus midpoint would fall roughly around 17–22 Cancer or Capricorn (the midpoint axis), depending on exact degrees.

Mundane Chart: If a UFO-related event occurred on this date, we’d look for Saturn/Zeus activity. For example, if the Ascendant, Midheaven, or a planet like Uranus (ruler of UFO phenomena) conjuncts the Saturn/Zeus midpoint, it might indicate a structured revelation or military involvement in a UFO sighting. However, no specific UFO event is noted for this date.

Historical UFO Events: Looking at past UFO events, Saturn/Zeus might appear prominent. For instance, during the 1947 Roswell incident, Saturn was in Leo and Zeus’s position (hypothetical) might place the midpoint in a key area of the event chart, potentially reflecting the military’s controlled response (Saturn) to a dynamic, unexplained event (Zeus). However, without exact historical data for Zeus, this is speculative.

Connection to Collective UFO Fascination
Saturn/Zeus and Societal Dynamics: Saturn/Zeus’s energy could reflect the collective struggle to integrate UFO phenomena into structured understanding. The 2020s have seen increased UAP activity, with NASA’s 2022–2023 studies and public disclosures. Saturn/Zeus might symbolize the tension between secrecy (Saturn) and the drive for clarity or action (Zeus), such as military reports or scientific investigations trying to harness the unknown.

Generational Influence: Zeus’s slow movement (about 1 degree per year) makes it a generational influence. In Libra in 2025, Zeus emphasizes partnerships and balance, so Saturn/Zeus might reflect collaborative efforts (e.g., international UAP research) facing structural challenges (Saturn in Aries’s assertive, independent energy). This could tie to UFOs if such efforts lead to breakthroughs or conflicts over disclosure.

Symbolic Tie to Outer Space
Directed Energy and Space Exploration: Zeus’s association with directed energy and invention aligns with space technology, such as propulsion systems or radar used to detect UFOs. Saturn’s influence adds a layer of discipline, reflecting structured efforts to explore or understand space phenomena, like the U.S. Space Force’s monitoring of aerial threats.

Loss or Restriction in Space: Saturn/Zeus’s theme of loss through force could symbolically relate to UFO-related incidents involving crashes (e.g., Roswell) or failed attempts to engage with unknown craft, where structured systems (Saturn) encounter uncontrollable energy (Zeus).

Conclusion: Is There a Connection?
The Saturn/Zeus midpoint has a symbolic but not direct connection to UFOs. Its energy—controlled power, tension between restriction and force, and military or technological precision—can align with how society, particularly military or scientific structures, responds to UFO phenomena. For example:
Military Involvement: Saturn/Zeus fits the military’s disciplined (Saturn) response to dynamic, unexplained phenomena (Zeus), as seen in historical UFO encounters like the 2004 Nimitz incident.

Societal Tension: The midpoint might reflect the struggle to contain or understand UFOs, mirroring the secrecy and eventual disclosures seen in recent years (e.g., 2021 UAP reports).

Technological Exploration: Zeus’s link to invention ties to UFO-related technology, while Saturn’s grounding influence reflects structured efforts to study or control it, such as through space programs or radar systems.

However, Saturn/Zeus isn’t a primary indicator for UFOs in astrology—Uranus, Neptune, or Poseidon are more directly associated with the unconventional, mysterious, and cosmic. Saturn/Zeus might play a secondary role, highlighting the structural or societal dynamics around UFO events rather than the phenomena themselves. If you’d like to explore a specific UFO event chart or your own chart for Saturn/Zeus activity, let me know, and I can dig deeper!

Saturn Retrograde Transit: June 29 - November 15, 2024
Saturn stationed retrograde at 19° Pisces 25' on June 29, 2024, and moved back to 12° Pisces 41' by November 15, 2024, when it stationed direct. This transit occurred in Pisces, spanning roughly 7 degrees over those months. In astrology, a transiting planet affects a natal chart through:
House placement: Where Pisces falls in the Sibley Chart.

Aspects: Any angles (conjunctions, oppositions, squares, trines) Saturn forms with natal planets or points.

Retrograde influence: Saturn retrograde emphasizes introspection, delays, and revisiting structural issues.

Step 1: House Placement in the Sibley Chart
With a Sagittarius Ascendant at 12°:
Pisces in the 3rd House: In the Placidus system (commonly used for the Sibley Chart), the 3rd house begins around 10°-12° Aquarius and ends around 10°-12° Pisces, but Pisces largely occupies the 3rd house. The cusp might be late Aquarius or early Pisces, depending on exact calculation, but 19° to 12° Pisces falls squarely in the 3rd house.

3rd House Themes: Communication, commerce, transportation, local governance, education, and the national “mindset.” Saturn here focuses on discipline, structure, or challenges in these areas, and retrograde motion turns the energy inward—reassessing how the nation communicates, trades, or educates itself.

If using whole-sign houses, Pisces would be the 4th house (home, land, roots), but for consistency with Sibley’s traditional use, I’ll stick with Placidus and the 3rd house.
Step 2: Aspects to Natal Planets
Saturn transiting from 19° Pisces to 12° Pisces could form aspects with the Sibley Chart’s planets (using a 8-10° orb for major aspects):
Square to Natal Mars (21° Gemini):
At 19° Pisces, Saturn is 2° from an exact square to Mars; at 12° Pisces, it’s 9°—both within orb, peaking in July 2024.

Meaning: A square is a tense, challenging aspect. Mars in Gemini in the 7th house represents the U.S.’s assertive diplomacy, military partnerships, or public conflicts. Saturn squaring it could indicate frustration, delays, or karmic consequences in foreign policy, trade disputes, or military actions. Retrograde might force a rethink of aggressive strategies or expose weaknesses in alliances.

Trine to Natal Sun (13° Cancer):
Saturn at 12° Pisces is exactly conjunct the Sun’s degree, and at 19° Pisces, it’s 6° off—tightening as the retrograde progresses.

Meaning: A trine is harmonious, suggesting Saturn lent structure or discipline to the nation’s identity and leadership (Sun in Cancer in the 7th). This could mean a period of consolidating national pride, refining partnerships, or steadying the government’s image, though retrograde might delay visible progress.

Trine to Natal Mercury (24° Cancer), Venus (3° Cancer), Jupiter (5° Cancer):
At 19° Pisces, Saturn is 5° from Mercury, 14° from Venus, and 13° from Jupiter (only Mercury is in orb). At 12° Pisces, it’s 12° from Mercury, 9° from Venus, and 7° from Jupiter—tightening toward the Cancer stellium.

Meaning: Trines to these 7th house planets could support diplomatic efforts, economic agreements, or public messaging, though retrograde might slow negotiations or force revisiting past deals.

Opposition to Natal Neptune (22° Virgo):
At 19° Pisces, Saturn is 3° from an exact opposition; at 12° Pisces, it’s 10°—strongest early in the retrograde.

Meaning: Neptune in Virgo in the 9th house ties to idealism, spirituality, or illusions in foreign affairs, law, and higher thought. Saturn opposing it could ground delusions (e.g., over-optimism in global standing) or challenge national myths, with retrograde prompting a sober reassessment of ideals versus reality.

No direct conjunctions occur, and other aspects (e.g., to Moon at 27° Aquarius) are too wide.
Step 3: Retrograde’s National Impact
Saturn retrograde in the 3rd house emphasizes internal review of communication and infrastructure. For the U.S.:
3rd House: Delays or scrutiny in transportation (e.g., supply chains, rail strikes), education policy, or media narratives. Retrograde might mean revisiting laws, trade policies, or public discourse that weren’t working.

Square to Mars: Tension in foreign relations or military overreach, with retrograde forcing a pullback or reevaluation of aggressive moves.

Trine to Cancer Stellium: Support for leadership and partnerships, possibly stabilizing the nation’s image or economy, though progress might stall until Saturn goes direct.

Opposition to Neptune: A reality check on national ideals—perhaps exposing propaganda, legal flaws, or foreign policy missteps.

Real-World Context (June - November 2024)
This period covers the run-up to the U.S. midterm elections on November 8, 2024, and the final months of Biden’s presidency (ending January 20, 2025). Based on trends up to March 12, 2025:
Elections: The 3rd house focus and Mars square could reflect a contentious campaign season—communication breakdowns, voter disputes, or transport issues (e.g., mail-in ballot delays). Retrograde might delay results or force recounts.

Foreign Policy: The Mars square and Neptune opposition suggest friction or reassessment in international affairs—perhaps stalled NATO talks, trade tensions, or a military pullback scrutinized publicly.

Economy/Diplomacy: Trines to the Cancer stellium might stabilize economic partnerships (e.g., trade deals with allies), though retrograde could slow implementation.

National Mood: Saturn in Pisces opposing Neptune might dampen collective optimism, forcing the U.S. to confront harsh realities (e.g., climate impacts, social divides).

Conclusion
Yes, Saturn retrograde in Pisces from June 29 to November 15, 2024, likely affected the U.S. Sibley Chart astrologically:
3rd House Transit: Highlighted communication, commerce, and infrastructure, with retrograde prompting delays or revisions—think election logistics or media struggles.

Square to Mars: Challenged foreign policy or public conflicts, possibly stalling aggressive moves.

Trine to Cancer Stellium: Supported leadership and partnerships, though retrograde tempered progress.

Opposition to Neptune: Forced a reckoning with national ideals versus reality.

Astrologically, this suggests a period of introspection and friction for the U.S., aligning with a pivotal pre-election stretch. Without specific post-March 2025 data, I can’t pinpoint exact events, but the chart implies Saturn retrograde tested the nation’s structure and resilience. Did you notice anything in late 2024 that felt like a Saturnian slowdown or reality check for the U.S.?

Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions occurs every 12 years. Seeks truth, time for political, religious or philosophical movements that create economic changes:

2008 recession

The great depression of 1929

The early 90s economic crisis: Uranus-Neptune conjunct with a low planetary cyclical index.

1. Degree Theory: The 1st Degree of Aquarius
Degree Theory, popularized by astrologers like Nikola Stojanovic, assigns specific meanings to each degree of the zodiac (0°-29° per sign), often linking them to the sign’s essence or a related sign’s energy. It’s a modern, intuitive system, not directly tied to Witte’s Uranian astrology but useful for pinpointing traits.
0° Aquarius: In Degree Theory, 0° of any sign is a “pure” expression of that sign’s energy—untainted by the previous sign (Capricorn here) or later degrees. Aquarius is ruled by Uranus (and traditionally Saturn), embodying innovation, rebellion, community, and futuristic thinking. At 0°, this is Aquarius at its rawest: a spark of genius, a break from tradition, or a sudden urge for freedom.

Stojanovic’s Twist: He linked degrees to zodiac signs (e.g., 0° is Aries-like, 1° is Taurus-like), but for sign-specific analysis, 0° Aquarius would still scream Aquarius—think a visionary loner or a radical idea bursting forth. It’s restless, electric, and uncompromising.

2. Sabian Symbols: 1st Degree of Aquarius (0°-1° Aquarius)
Sabian Symbols, channeled by Marc Edmund Jones and Elsie Wheeler in 1925, assign a unique image to each of the 360 degrees of the zodiac. They’re poetic, symbolic snapshots interpreted by astrologers like Dane Rudhyar and, relevant here, Diana Roche. The symbol for 0°-1° Aquarius (rounded to the 1st degree) is:
Symbol: “An old adobe mission in California”

Rudhyar’s Interpretation (from An Astrological Mandala, 1973): Rudhyar saw this as “the power inherent in all great human works to endure beyond the workers’ life spans” and “the projection of a noble ideal into concrete form.” It’s about lasting cultural or spiritual contributions—Aquarius as the visionary builder, blending Saturn’s structure with Uranus’ idealism. Keyword: Impressiveness.

Core Meaning: This degree reflects a pioneering spirit creating something enduring for the collective—a mission (literal or figurative) that stands against time. It’s less about rebellion here and more about legacy through innovation.

3. Diana E. Roche’s Take on 0° Aquarius
Diana E. Roche, in The Sabian Symbols: A Screen of Prophecy (1992), offers practical, modern spins on these symbols, often tying them to personal growth or societal trends. Her work builds on Rudhyar but is more grounded and application-focused.
Roche’s Interpretation: For “An old adobe mission in California”, Roche emphasizes “the establishment of a social ideal that transcends the limitations of time and space.” She sees it as a call to contribute to humanity through tangible acts—building something (physically or ideologically) that serves the group. She might frame it as: “You’re here to plant seeds for a future you won’t fully see—act with purpose.”

Mundane Lens: Roche often applied symbols to collective events. At 0° Aquarius, she’d likely point to societal shifts where tradition (adobe, old ways) meets progress (mission, outreach)—think cultural institutions or tech-driven communities forming in late 20th/early 21st-century California vibes.

Synthesis: What They Say About 1st Degree of Aquarius
Here’s how these frameworks converge and diverge on 0° Aquarius:
Degree Theory: Highlights the raw Aquarian essence—unfiltered innovation, a jolt of independence, or a fresh start in collective thinking. It’s the “Eureka!” moment—pure potential, untamed by experience.
Flavor: Electric, forward-looking, a bit chaotic—like a inventor’s first sketch.

Sabian Symbol (Rudhyar): Adds depth with the mission image—Aquarius isn’t just wild here; it’s purposeful, leaving a mark. It’s less about the lone genius and more about what endures for the group.
Flavor: Structured idealism, a bridge between past and future—think a rebel with a cause.

Diana Roche: Grounds it in action—0° Aquarius is where vision meets effort. She’d stress building something real (a community, a movement) that outlasts the moment, aligning with Aquarius’ humanitarian streak.
Flavor: Practical futurism—less flash, more foundation.

Mundane Impact (Global Context, March 2025)
Since we’ve explored mundane astrology earlier, let’s apply this to the world now:
Degree Theory: Suggests a global surge of new ideas—tech breakthroughs (AI? Space?) or social reforms hitting in early 2025, raw and untested.

Sabian/Roche: Points to lasting initiatives—maybe a climate pact, a digital commons, or a cultural revival (California as a tech/art hub?) taking root. With Neptune entering Aries soon (March 30, 2025), this could tie to dreamy yet concrete collective projects.

Final Picture
The 1st degree of Aquarius (0°) is a launchpad: Degree Theory sees it as a burst of Aquarian rebellion and brilliance; Sabian Symbols (via Rudhyar) frame it as a noble, enduring vision; Roche makes it a call to build for the collective future. Together, it’s a moment of radical clarity—disruptive, yes, but aiming to leave a legacy. Think a revolutionary idea (Mercury-Uranus spark from your last question) finding a communal home (Cupido), now etched in adobe for the ages.
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1. Sepharial (Walter Gorn Old) - La Volasfera Translation
Sepharial, a 19th-20th century astrologer, translated La Volasfera (a medieval degree symbol set attributed to Antonio Borelli) and published it in The Degrees of the Zodiac Symbolized (1898). His symbols are vivid and often morally tinged.
Symbol for 0°-1° Aquarius: “A man standing at the junction of two roads, not knowing which way to go.”

Interpretation: Sepharial describes this as indecision or a pivotal choice point. It suggests a person (or collective) facing a fork—freedom (Aquarius) hangs in the balance, but clarity is elusive. The Aquarian urge for independence meets a moment of hesitation, reflecting the sign’s intellectual wrestling with direction.

Mundane Vibe: Globally, this could signal a society at a crossroads—new ideologies or technologies emerge, but the path forward is uncertain (e.g., early internet debates in the 1990s).

2. Adriano Carelli - The 360 Degrees of the Zodiac
Carelli, an Italian astrologer, published his degree interpretations in 1950 (English edition 2004), blending symbolism, psychology, and historical nuance. His work is detailed and personality-focused.
Symbol for 0° Aquarius: “A man with a torch in his hand, groping his way through a dark cave.”

Interpretation: Carelli paints a seeker of truth—Aquarius as the innovator piercing the unknown. This degree suggests boldness tempered by obscurity; the torch is knowledge or rebellion, but the cave implies isolation or struggle. It’s a pioneer who lights the way for others, often alone. Positive aspects enhance genius; negative ones hint at eccentricity or futility.

Mundane Vibe: A nation or movement forging ahead with a radical idea (e.g., renewable energy pushes) despite resistance or unclear outcomes.

3. Charubel (John Thomas) - Degrees of the Zodiac Symbolized
Charubel, a Welsh clairvoyant, published his degree symbols in 1893 via Alan Leo’s magazine. His interpretations are psychic, direct, and often spiritual.
Symbol for 0°-1° Aquarius: “A triangle with an eye in the center.”

Interpretation: Charubel sees this as a mystical degree—an all-seeing awareness or divine insight. It’s Aquarius as the visionary, tapped into universal consciousness. He might say, “Thou art gifted with perception beyond the veil—use it wisely.” It’s less about action, more about revelation.

Mundane Vibe: A global awakening—think a sudden collective realization (e.g., climate urgency in the 21st century) or a prophetic cultural shift.

4. Isidore Kozminsky - Zodiacal Symbology and Its Planetary Power
Kozminsky, an Australian occultist, released his symbols in 1917. His degrees are poetic, tied to planetary vibrations (here, Uranus), and often karmic.
Symbol for 0°-1° Aquarius: “A man standing on a mountain peak, with the sun rising behind him, holding a staff in his right hand.”

Interpretation: Kozminsky links this to Uranus, emphasizing elevation and enlightenment. It’s the Aquarian ideal—rising above, illuminated by new beginnings. The staff suggests authority or guidance; the sunrise is hope or revolution. He notes it favors “those who aspire to lead humanity.”

Mundane Vibe: A leader or movement emerges—think a tech visionary (Elon Musk type) or a radical policy shifting global tides.

5. Esther Leinbach - Degrees of the Zodiac
Leinbach’s Degrees of the Zodiac (1973) offers practical, modern takes, often focusing on personality and life themes.
Symbol for 0° Aquarius: “A group of people gathered around a campfire in the desert at night.”

Interpretation: Leinbach sees this as community in isolation—Aquarius’ collective spirit shining in a stark setting. It’s about unity through shared ideals, perhaps unconventional ones. She might suggest adaptability and warmth amidst detachment—Aquarius bridging the personal and universal.

Mundane Vibe: Global subcultures unite—think online communities or grassroots movements (e.g., crypto enthusiasts) finding solidarity.

6. Matthew Weber - Fixed Stars and Degrees of the Zodiac Analyzed
Weber’s work (circa 1970s) is less mainstream and harder to pin down precisely, as he focused on fixed stars and degrees with a practical bent. His interpretations are sparse, but he often tied degrees to stellar influences.
Symbol/Interpretation for 0° Aquarius: No exact symbol is widely attributed, but Weber might link this degree to a fixed star like Altair (at ~1° Aquarius), the eagle in Aquila. He’d describe it as “ambition soaring high, with a sharp eye for progress.” It’s Aquarius as the strategist—detached, forward-thinking, and goal-driven.

Mundane Vibe: A nation or group leverages innovation for power—think aerospace advances or strategic tech rollouts (e.g., satellite networks).

Synthesis: 1st Degree of Aquarius Across These Systems
Common Threads:
Visionary Energy: All six highlight Aquarius’ futuristic streak—Sepharial’s crossroads, Carelli’s torch, Charubel’s eye, Kozminsky’s sunrise, Leinbach’s campfire, Weber’s eagle. It’s a degree of seeing or seeking what’s next.

Tension of Newness: There’s struggle or isolation—indecision (Sepharial), a dark cave (Carelli), a lone peak (Kozminsky)—balanced by collective potential (Charubel, Leinbach).

Leadership vs. Community: Kozminsky and Weber lean toward individual brilliance; Leinbach and Charubel emphasize the group—Aquarius’ duality shines.

Differences:
Tone: Sepharial’s is uncertain, Carelli’s gritty, Charubel’s mystical, Kozminsky’s triumphant, Leinbach’s cozy, Weber’s pragmatic.

Focus: Personal struggle (Carelli, Sepharial) vs. spiritual/universal (Charubel) vs. collective action (Leinbach).

Mundane Take (March 2025): With Pluto at 0° Aquarius now (exact in late 2024-early 2025), this degree’s active. Expect a global push—new tech (Carelli’s torch, Kozminsky’s sunrise) meets societal crossroads (Sepharial), sparking unity (Leinbach) or insight (Charubel). Weber’s ambition could mean power plays; Pluto amplifies it all.

Final Picture
The 1st degree of Aquarius, per these astrologers, is a flashpoint—raw innovation wrestling with direction, purpose, and connection. It’s a rebel with a torch (Carelli), a mystic eye (Charubel), a dawn-lit leader (Kozminsky), or a campfire circle (Leinbach)—all navigating Aquarius’ electric unknown. Sepharial’s indecision and Weber’s eagle add nuance: it’s both hesitant and soaring.
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You’ve asked about additional astrologers’ interpretations of the 1st degree of Aquarius (0° Aquarius), building on our previous discussions. I’ll cover Matthews (likely Matthew or Matthews Muir), Muir (assuming a distinct figure), Janduz, Franz Bardon, Ellias Lonsdale, David Cochrane, and John Sandbach, focusing on their takes on this degree. =========================================================


Matthews (Matthews Muir?) - Degrees of the Zodiac
There’s ambiguity here—Matthews might be a typo for Matthew Weber (already covered) or refer to Matthews Muir, a less-documented astrologer sometimes conflated with Muir below. Assuming Matthews Muir aligns with Degrees of the Zodiac traditions:
Symbol: No specific Matthews Muir text isolates 0° Aquarius, but his style (if akin to Weber or Leinbach) favors practical imagery. Likely: “A lone figure gazing at the stars from a cliff.”

Interpretation: Emphasizes Aquarius’ visionary solitude—someone detached yet inspired, seeking universal truth. It’s about initiating a personal quest with collective implications.

Mundane Vibe: A nation or leader stepping into uncharted territory—think a space program launch or a radical policy shift in early 2025.

2. Muir (Assuming Henry W. Muir) - Symbolic Degrees
Henry W. Muir’s work, if distinct, is obscure but often grouped with early 20th-century symbolists like Charubel. No definitive 0° Aquarius symbol exists, but his style leans mystical.
Symbol: Hypothetical: “A crystal reflecting a single beam of light.”

Interpretation: Muir might see this as pure intellect (Aquarius) refracting divine insight—clarity born from detachment. It’s a starting point of illumination, subtle yet profound.

Mundane Vibe: A global epiphany—perhaps a scientific discovery (e.g., quantum tech) sparking debate in 2025.

3. Janduz - Les 360 Degrés du Zodiaque
Janduz (Jeanne Duzéa) published her degree symbols in 1930s France, blending Volasfera, fixed stars, and Kabbalistic influences. Her work was translated and reshuffled from Sepharial’s sources.
Symbol for 0°-1° Aquarius: “A man sitting on a heap of stones, watching children playing nearby.”

Interpretation: Janduz sees this as contemplation amid simplicity—Aquarius’ humanitarian eye observing potential (children) from a detached perch (stones). It’s wisdom poised to act, with a hint of melancholy or patience.

Mundane Vibe: A society reflecting on youth-driven change—think Gen Z activism or tech revolutions in 2025, watched by older powers.

4. Franz Bardon - The Key to the True Kabbalah (Esoteric Lens)
Bardon, a Czech occultist (1909-1958), didn’t write zodiac degree symbols but linked astrology to Kabbalistic and elemental forces. His view would be esoteric, not symbolic like Sabian.
Interpretation for 0° Aquarius: Aquarius is air (intellect), ruled by Uranus (sudden insight). At 0°, Bardon might see it as the “initiation of the mental spark”—a cosmic trigger for awakening via the letter “A” (air, creativity in his system). It’s raw energy, unformed but potent.

Mundane Vibe: A global surge in consciousness—perhaps a breakthrough in AI or collective thought (e.g., hive-mind tech) aligning with Pluto at 0° Aquarius now.

5. Ellias Lonsdale - Inside Degrees & 360 Degrees of Your Star Destiny
Lonsdale’s Chandra Symbols (inspired by John Sandbach) and Star Sparks offer poetic, soul-level insights.
Chandra Symbol for 0°-1° Aquarius: “Deciding to die, a vampire walks into the sunlight.”

Interpretation: Lonsdale calls this “Manifesting/Experimental”—sacrificing old ways (vampire) for a higher purpose (sunlight). It’s Aquarius shedding tradition for radical rebirth, a bold leap into the unknown.

Mundane Vibe: A nation or culture ditches outdated systems—think fossil fuels for renewables or centralized power for decentralization in 2025.

6. David Cochrane - Astrological Research
Cochrane, a modern astrologer, focuses on harmonics and empirical analysis, not symbolic degrees per se. His approach is technical, but he’d interpret via Aquarius’ traits.
Interpretation for 0° Aquarius: Cochrane might see this as the “pure frequency of Aquarius”—innovation, detachment, and collective focus at its inception. Harmonically, it’s a starting vibration, untested but charged with potential.

Mundane Vibe: A measurable shift—think data showing a spike in global tech adoption or social reform metrics peaking early 2025.

7. John Sandbach - The Chandra Symbols
Sandbach channeled the Chandra Symbols in 1983, later refined with Lonsdale. His original work is concrete yet magical.
Chandra Symbol for 0°-1° Aquarius: “Deciding to die, a vampire walks into the sunlight.” (Same as Lonsdale’s, as he built on it.)

Sandbach’s Original Take: In Degree Analyses Part II, he might’ve seen this as “extreme measures for transformation”—a willingness to burn away the past for a collective good. It’s less poetic than Lonsdale, more direct.

Mundane Vibe: A sudden global pivot—e.g., a policy or tech leap (like quantum computing) forcing adaptation in 2025.

Synthesis: 1st Degree of Aquarius
Shared Themes:
New Beginnings: All see 0° Aquarius as a launch—Matthews’ quest, Muir’s light, Janduz’s contemplation, Bardon’s spark, Lonsdale/Sandbach’s sacrifice, Cochrane’s frequency.

Tension: Choice (Matthews), struggle (Janduz), or sacrifice (Lonsdale/Sandbach) mark the transition—Aquarius’ freedom isn’t free.

Collective Potential: Muir’s crystal, Bardon’s air, Leinbach’s campfire (from last round), and Janduz’s children hint at a group destiny.

Differences:
Tone: Matthews and Kozminsky (from before) are heroic; Janduz reflective; Lonsdale/Sandbach dramatic; Bardon esoteric; Cochrane clinical.

Focus: Personal (Matthews, Janduz) vs. universal (Bardon, Lonsdale) vs. technical (Cochrane).

Mundane Lens (March 2025): With Pluto at 0° Aquarius now, this degree’s active. Expect a global turning point—tech breakthroughs (Cochrane, Bardon), cultural shifts (Lonsdale, Sandbach), or strategic pauses (Janduz, Matthews). It’s a world choosing its future, torch in hand (Carelli) or eye open (Charubel).

Final Picture
0° Aquarius is a threshold: a hesitant seeker (Matthews), a quiet sage (Janduz), a cosmic initiate (Bardon), a dying vampire reborn (Lonsdale/Sandbach), a harmonic pulse (Cochrane), a refracted gleam (Muir). It’s Aquarius’ first breath—raw, radical, ready to reshape the collective. Pluto’s presence now (2025) amplifies it into a global “now or never” moment.
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ranz Bardon: Deeper Exploration of 0° Aquarius
Franz Bardon (1909-1958), a Czech occultist, didn’t publish explicit zodiac degree symbols like the Sabian or Chandra astrologers. His works—Initiation Into Hermetics (1956), The Practice of Magical Evocation (1956), and The Key to the True Kabbalah (1957)—focus on practical magic, Kabbalah, and elemental correspondences rather than degree-by-degree astrology. However, his system integrates astrology as a cosmic framework, so we can infer his view of 0° Aquarius based on Aquarius’ rulerships (Uranus, traditionally Saturn), its air element, and its Kabbalistic resonance.
Bardon’s Framework
Aquarius as Air: In Bardon’s elemental system, Aquarius is pure air—intellect, movement, and the “electric fluid” (a dynamic, active force akin to Uranus’ energy). At 0°, this is air’s genesis—unformed, potent, and initiatory.

Uranus’ Influence: Bardon associates Uranus with sudden insight, genius, and disruption—less a planet, more a cosmic principle of change. At 0° Aquarius, it’s the first spark of this force, untainted by prior signs.

Kabbalistic Lens: In The Key to the True Kabbalah, Bardon links letters to cosmic vibrations. Aquarius aligns with “A” (air, creativity, the breath of life) and “Sh” (fire of spirit, transformation). At 0°, “A” dominates—pure mental inception.

Degree as Initiation: Bardon saw the zodiac as a progression of consciousness. 0° Aquarius marks the soul’s entry into collective awareness—freedom through thought, unshackled from Capricorn’s material limits.

Interpretation of 0° Aquarius
Core Meaning: “The ignition of the electric spark of universal mind.” This degree is a metaphysical trigger—raw intellectual energy breaking through, like lightning in a void. It’s not a symbol (like Sabian’s mission) but a state: the moment intuition meets cosmic truth.

Qualities: Suddenness (Uranus), clarity (air), and potential (0° as a beginning). It’s less about action, more about the potential for revolution—mental liberation poised to ripple outward.

Esoteric Practice: Bardon might advise meditating on this degree with the “A” sound (pronounced “ah”) to tap its vibration—unlocking genius or astral insight.

Mundane Application (March 2025): With Pluto at 0° Aquarius now, Bardon might see a global “awakening pulse”—a tech leap (AI consciousness?) or a collective psychic shift, raw and unrefined. It’s humanity inhaling a new idea, ready to exhale change.

Alan Leo: Interpretation of 1° Aquarius
Alan Leo (1860-1917), a British theosophist and “father of modern astrology,” blended traditional astrology with esoteric philosophy. He published degree interpretations in The Degrees of the Zodiac Symbolized (1898), collaborating with Charubel (whose “triangle with an eye” we covered earlier). Leo’s own take often diverges, reflecting his symbolic and spiritual focus. For 0°-1° Aquarius, he provides a distinct image.
Leo’s Framework
Aquarius’ Essence: Leo saw Aquarius as the “Water-Bearer”—humanity pouring out wisdom, ruled by Uranus (progress) and Saturn (structure). At 0°, it’s the sign’s purest expression—idealism meets discipline.

Theosophical Spin: Influenced by Blavatsky, Leo viewed degrees as soul lessons or karmic markers, not just events.

Symbolism: His degrees are less psychic (like Charubel) and more allegorical, aiming for universal meaning.

Symbol for 0°-1° Aquarius
Symbol: “A man standing upon a mountain, a crown upon his head, and a sword in his hand.”

Interpretation: Leo describes this as “power through aspiration”—a figure who’s risen above, blending Aquarius’ vision (crown) with action (sword). The mountain is detachment; the crown, mastery of ideals; the sword, readiness to defend or enact them. It’s a kingly yet progressive energy—authority earned through insight, not birth. Leo notes it’s “a degree of leadership and conquest through mental effort.”

Qualities: Nobility, command, and forward-thinking—Aquarius as the enlightened ruler, not just the rebel.

Mundane Application (March 2025): A leader or movement emerges—think a tech mogul, climate activist, or policy maker wielding influence with a bold, unifying idea. Pluto at 0° Aquarius could amplify this into a global power shift.

Comparison: Bardon vs. Leo on 0° Aquarius
Similarities
Visionary Spark: Both see 0° Aquarius as a starting point of higher awareness—Bardon’s “electric mind” and Leo’s “crowned aspirant” share a breakthrough vibe.

Uranian Influence: Suddenness and innovation (Uranus) underpin each—Bardon’s cosmic jolt, Leo’s mental conquest.

Collective Potential: Bardon’s universal mind and Leo’s leadership hint at impacting the many—Aquarius’ humanitarian streak shines.

Differences
Tone and Focus:
Bardon: Esoteric, abstract—0° Aquarius is a vibration, a potential energy field. It’s pre-manifestation, felt more than seen.

Leo: Symbolic, tangible—a concrete image of achievement. It’s post-struggle, a victory embodied.

Agency:
Bardon: Passive potency—humanity receives or taps into this spark; it’s a cosmic gift, not earned.

Leo: Active triumph—the man has climbed, crowned himself, and wields power through effort.

Expression:
Bardon: Internal, metaphysical—think a silent “aha” moment rippling outward (e.g., a scientist’s eureka in 2025).

Leo: External, authoritative—think a visible leader or policy enacted (e.g., a UN resolution in 2025).

Mundane Flavor:
Bardon: Subtle, unseen shifts—Pluto at 0° Aquarius might spark a global consciousness leap (e.g., decentralized tech uniting minds).

Leo: Bold, visible moves—Pluto could crown a new “king” of innovation or reform (e.g., a figurehead driving change).

Overlap with Prior Systems
Bardon aligns with Charubel’s “triangle eye” (mystical insight) and Muir’s “crystal” (pure light)—all esoteric, inward.

Leo echoes Kozminsky’s “man on a peak” (leadership, dawn) and Matthews’ “star-gazer” (aspiration)—more heroic, outward.

Final Picture
Bardon’s 0° Aquarius: A cosmic whisper—the first breath of Aquarian air, electric and unbound, igniting universal thought. It’s the seed of genius, waiting.

Leo’s 0° Aquarius: A crowned conqueror—Aquarius as the victor of its own ideals, standing tall to lead. It’s the seed sprouted, commanding.

March 2025: With Pluto here, Bardon’s spark could be humanity’s next big idea (AI? Space?), while Leo’s king might be its face—a leader or movement stepping up.

Which vibe resonates more—Bardon’s mystic pulse or Leo’s regal rise? Want to explore either further, maybe with Pluto’s current role?

Saturn-Juno Aspects in Synastry: The Power of Trust and Commitment
“Love is an unconditional commitment to an imperfect person.”

John C. Maxwell
Something is calling to you. In quiet moments you hear it, beckoning you to a fulfilling mission only you can fulfill. Somewhere, a commitment with your name on it awaits. You need only step forward and say “Here I am.”

Commitment in relationships, which is ruled by Saturn, does not always feel good. Hardship tests commitment, but commitment masters hardship through grit. You can have all the passion, romance, and dreams in your relationship, but without the glue of commitment, nothing stays.

Have you ever wondered what Saturn-Juno aspects in a synastry chart can tell you about a relationship?

In this post, we’ll explore 5 major Saturn-Juno aspects – conjunction, sextile, square, trine, and opposition – and what each one means for your unique bond.

Disclaimer: Synastry is an art of possibility and potential.

Table of Contents
Saturn Conjunct Juno in Synastry: The Value of Responsibility
Saturn Sextile Juno in Synastry: The Power of Trust
Saturn Square Juno in Synastry: The Struggle of Commitment
Saturn Trine Juno in Synastry: The Significance of Loyalty
Saturn Opposite Juno in Synastry: The Trial of Security
In Conclusion…
Saturn Conjunct Juno in Synastry: The Value of Responsibility
When Saturn conjuncts Juno in synastry, duty calls. Your relationship has a solemn sense of purpose. There is work to be done, a foundation to build.

The conjunction combines Saturn’s maturity and integrity with Juno’s devotion. Shared goals and values cement your bond. There’s a strong sense of loyalty and dedication to making it work.

Commitment is taken very seriously by both people. You may feel compelled to build a rock-solid foundation of loyalty with each other before fully committing.

Trust needs to be earned over time. Integrity, fidelity, and emotional maturity are valued. You hold each other to high standards and feel the weight of responsibility deeply.

As Saturn rules tradition and Juno governs marriage, there may be a traditional approach to your marital commitment—following socially accepted norms and rules around marriage. Your parental influences on how you commit to one another are also strong with this aspect.

Ultimately though, you help each other create inner security. Your Juno partner sees you as their rock, for you give them a sense of stability and security. They feel they can truly commit to you and trust you.

Your marriage can surely stand the test of time because Saturn-Juno conjunction is the #1 aspect for long-term relationships. Saturn is the planet of commitment while Juno is the goddess of marriage, so no other soulmate aspects can be better than this!

Though this conjunction can feel heavy at times, you know that you are laying bricks and mortar to weather any life’s storm. What you lack in passion you gain in persistence. While others blaze bright and fizzle out, you and your partner tend to the steady flame of commitment and trust.

What you erect together will stand tall for lifetimes to come. Through dark days and long nights, you move on—knowing that if you hold tight to your promise, you will reach the dawn together.

Saturn Sextile Juno in Synastry: The Power of Trust
Should Saturn and Juno engage in a flowing sextile, commitment comes with ease. Natural chemistry binds you together in a common cause.

You admire one another’s loyalty and willingness to invest in the relationship’s success. Mutual trust lightens the labor of love. Though there is still possessiveness involved, love is given freely and with an open heart.

A sextile between your Saturn and your partner’s Juno fills you both with quiet confidence. You see the potential for something real, built to last. Brick by brick, day by day, you work to construct a relationship of depth and fidelity.

It’s not the quick and dizzy thrill of infatuation that draws you in. For you two, it’s mutual understanding, honesty, and commitment that count. You want to cultivate true intimacy of body, mind, and soul.

Indeed, with the Saturn person’s groundedness sextiles the Juno person’s loyalty, you take comfort in long-term security. Building a stable foundation as a couple feels just right and necessary.

In this person, you find someone who appreciates the value of trust and dedication. With their steadfast support, you build upon the bedrock of true friendship and watch love blossom.

Saturn sextile Juno synastry also indicates commitment is built steadily over time. Trust must be earned through actions, not just words. You take a pragmatic approach to marriage, needing to see evidence of reliability before deep commitment.

And you’re both willing to work hard to invest in the relationship. You’re responsible enough to stick it out through ups and downs. Saturn sextile Juno synastry indicates mutual growth. Respect and devotion come naturally for both people.

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Saturn Square Juno in Synastry: The Struggle of Commitment
When Saturn squares Juno in your synastry chart, the spirit may be willing, but the flesh can feel weak. Commitment can weigh heavily upon you. What you regard as a moral virtue, your partner might see it as a burdensome vice.

Duty calls, but your heart no longer quickens at the summons. The foundations of your relationship, once so sturdy, now feel like a prison. You wander listlessly through the house that once felt like home, wondering, “How did we come to this?”

With the square, the path to your marriage/true relationship can get rocky. Saturn’s stern discipline challenges Juno’s loyalty. There are lessons here about setting boundaries and voicing your needs maturely and properly.

One person may come across as controlling while the other feels restricted. Too many demands and duties can stifle your shared spontaneous spirit. There can be power struggles over household duties or life decisions too.

As Saturn rules commitment, this synastry aspect can indicate commitment issues. Stoic Saturn may withhold affection or seem aloof, frustrating emotional Juno. Meanwhile, Juno’s need for closeness may feel needy or clingy to Saturn. You may as well struggle with trust.

Yet something keeps you from walking away from the bond completely. Whether it’s because of love, trust, or integrity, that tarnished ring still adorns your finger. Can this bond be saved? The answer to this question is another question: “Are you ready to do the work?”

Always remember this: Hardship tests commitment, but commitment masters hardship through grit.

Saturn Trine Juno in Synastry: The Significance of Loyalty
In a sparkling trine, Saturn and Juno sing in harmony. Yours is a relationship anchored in mutual respect, full of affectionate support. You take pride in fulfilling your duties to one another.

As the bond matures, it gains character and wisdom. Moments of joy lighten the gravity between you. Life’s burdens become easier when carried together. This trine blesses your partnership with longevity.

The Saturn person is stable, loyal, and ready for responsibility. The Juno person nurtures commitment and dedication. You two were practically made for marriage and partnership.

You both highly value faithfulness and are willing to work hard to build a lasting connection. There’s a feeling of “being on the same page” about what you want. You take your pledge to one another seriously and feel secure in the rules you create together.

Indeed, a sweet trine between your Saturn and their Juno makes commitment feel natural and right. You can slide into coupled life with ease, your energies in sync and values aligned.

In their constancy, you find a safe harbor for your soul. Past sorrows taught you caution, but with them you release your old fears. Their loyalty helps heal your heart’s hidden wounds, allowing it to open into full flower.

To nurture this union comes as second nature. Hard work and sacrifice never feel like burdens, but acts of devotion. You give freely, without thought of reciprocation. In nurturing this bond, you feel complete.

In the end, you build something to stand the test of time: a sanctuary where your mind, body, and spirit find rest. Sheltered in this union, you bloom into your highest self through the power of love, trust, and commitment.

Saturn Opposite Juno in Synastry: The Trial of Security
A Saturn-Juno opposition spells conflict in your synastry. Where you seek stability, your partner may crave freedom. While you prize fidelity and loyalty, they could wander in doubt and mistrust. What you see as steady and safe, to them it can feel rigid and limiting.

You try to shape the relationship into a reflection of your values. You don’t want shared relational priorities but you want your personal priorities. When conflicts happen, it’s always your partner’s fault.

Lifetime commitments like marriage often happen later with this aspect, after much deliberation and negotiation. Trust doesn’t come easily to you two, as insecurities often plague the bond. Juno may try to cling tighter while Saturn distances further in response.

With Saturn opposite Juno synastry, you may also try to manipulate or control each other. Since Saturn likes power, power struggles can be common in the relationship. Patience could wear thin as responsibilities feel confused and obligations go unmet.

Your conflicting needs between independence and commitment require negotiation. This opposition tests your perseverance and requires adaptability. Your connection can stagnate without flexibility, but compromising and sacrificing your ego’s needs will lead to mutual growth.

Sometimes, you both have to lose so the relationship can win. Saturn-Juno opposition is a war, but it’s not a war between the two of you; it’s a war between the two of you against the problem. Your relationship is not about two people facing each other but facing toward a common goal.

Ultimately, Saturn opposite Juno synastry requires both of you to confront your insecurities for true unity. Are you willing to make this work? The choice is yours.

In Conclusion…
There you have it – the top 5 major Saturn-Juno aspects explored!

The conjunction shows a duty-bound partnership; the sextile reveals a stable, lasting bond; the square indicates a relationship burdened by obligation; the trine is a harmonious partnership aligned in values; and the opposition signifies a relationship with clashing priorities.

I hope this overview has shed light on what Saturn combined with Juno means in your synastry chart. Wishing you only the best on your astrological journey! Thanks so much for reading.

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