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crimsoncurrentJohn Sandbach (Chandra Symbols)
Sandbach’s Chandra Symbols offer imaginative, intuitive images for each degree. For Libra 15 (14° Libra in his system), his symbol is:
Chandra Symbol: "A Chariot pulled by four elephants."
Interpretation: Sandbach describes this as a powerful, steady force moving toward a goal with grace and strength. The elephants suggest endurance and collective effort, while the chariot ties to direction and purpose. In mundane terms, this could mean a slow but unstoppable shift in a relationship or social dynamic, perhaps a group effort to restore balance or achieve a shared vision. The Libran flavor emphasizes diplomacy and cooperation, but with a grounded, almost ceremonial weight.
Ellias Lonsdale (Inside Degrees/Chandra-Based)
Lonsdale builds on Sandbach’s Chandra Symbols, adding a poetic, soul-level twist. For Libra 15 (14° Libra):
Symbol: "A Chariot pulled by four elephants." (Adopting Sandbach’s image)
Interpretation: Lonsdale might frame this as a karmic journey toward equilibrium, where the soul navigates partnerships or societal roles with profound intention. He’d likely see the elephants as ancient, instinctual forces—perhaps repressed emotions or collective traditions—pulling the chariot of conscious will. Mundanely, this could manifest as a pivotal moment in a relationship or community where old patterns are harnessed for a new, balanced outcome. His take leans mystical, suggesting a deeper unfolding of destiny through connection.
Marc Edmund Jones (Sabian Symbols)
Jones originated the Sabian Symbols, channeled in 1925 with psychic Elsie Wheeler. For Libra 15 (14° Libra in Sabian counting):
Sabian Symbol: "Circular paths."
Interpretation: Jones describes this as a symbol of returning to the same point, suggesting repetition or a need to revisit unresolved issues. In Libra, it could imply cycles in relationships—circling back to negotiate, reconcile, or perfect harmony. Mundanely, this might look like a situation where people keep rehashing old arguments or patterns in a partnership, workplace, or legal matter, seeking resolution. Jones emphasizes the practical: it’s about recognizing the loop and choosing how to step out (or not).
Dane Rudhyar (Sabian Symbols Refinement)
Rudhyar took Jones’s Sabian Symbols and gave them a philosophical, evolutionary spin. For Libra 15 (14° Libra):
Sabian Symbol: "Circular paths."
Keynote: "The need to recapture an ever-receding and idealized past, or to discover basic meanings in life processes."
Interpretation: Rudhyar sees this as a quest for meaning through repetition, tied to Libra’s relational and aesthetic ideals. The circular paths suggest a meditative or karmic process—perhaps revisiting past promises or ideals in a partnership to find closure or renewal. In mundane terms, this could be a couple stuck in a loop of nostalgia, a society clinging to outdated traditions, or an artist refining their craft through cycles of effort. Rudhyar adds a spiritual layer: it’s about transcending the circle to grow.
Synthesis in Mundane Terms:
Bovee: Likely a practical take—15 Libra as a turning point in balancing relationships or justice, no specific symbol.
Sandbach: A chariot with elephants—steady, collective progress in a social or relational sphere, like a community rallying for peace.
Lonsdale: The same chariot, but a soulful push through old relational baggage toward harmony, maybe a family reckoning.
Jones: Circular paths—repetitive cycles in partnerships or diplomacy, like a negotiation that won’t resolve.
Rudhyar: Circular paths as a deeper search for meaning, perhaps a nation or individual revisiting roots to move forward.
Together, 15 Libra might suggest a real-world scenario where a group (Cupido-esque, from earlier) faces a repetitive conflict (Jones/Rudhyar), resolved through deliberate, collective effort (Sandbach/Lonsdale), with an eye on practical harmony (Bovee). Think a stalled peace talk, a family reunion breaking old habits, or a workplace finding equilibrium after chaos.
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Mundane Terms: A writer or speaker (literature, speech) negotiates a key partnership—e.g., a movie deal (favors work in movies) with family support (relatives helping hopes), balancing health interests with creative output. Think a diplomatic filmmaker sharpening their craft.
Sepharial (Walter Gorn Old) – Corrected
Symbol: "A man walking with two women, their arms linked in his." (Corrected from earlier "crown and purse" symbol.)
Interpretation: Sepharial views this as mediation or social influence—someone unifying dual forces with charm. In Libra, it’s about relational balance, possibly aided by others (fraternal support).
Mundane Terms: A charismatic figure—say, a talkative cop (law enforcement, speech) or tech-savvy mediator (electronics)—links two parties, arms entwined, with kin backing their goals. They mimic voices (mentally alert) in a movie role, harmonizing tensions.
Charubel (John Thomas) – Corrected
Symbol: "A fat pig lying down."
Interpretation: "Denotes one who will ever appear to live for self. Hence all his or her study will be: 'What shall I eat or what shall I drink?' At the same time a harmless person, one free from criminal acts. Being nearly destitute of ambition, he will care but little how." Charubel paints a self-indulgent, unambitious soul—focused on comfort, harmless but apathetic.
Mundane Terms: A lazy foodie (health, diet as indulgence) lounges with gadgets (electronics), writing about snacks (literature) with family funding (relatives helping). No law enforcement drive—lawlessness only in petty excess. Think a harmless slacker blogging from the couch.
Ada Muir
Symbol/Description: No specific corrected symbol provided; Muir’s The Degrees of the Zodiac Analyzed emphasizes practical character traits and cooperation.
Interpretation: Muir would likely see 15 Libra as a degree of teamwork and relational effort, aligning with Libra’s cooperative nature.
Mundane Terms: A writer or actor (movies, literature) teams up with siblings (relatives helping) for a health-focused project—e.g., a fitness vlog. Mentally alert, they balance law enforcement themes (or playful lawlessness) with charm, mimicking roles for fun.
Adriano Carelli – Corrected
Symbol: "A merely instinctive life. Laziness and lack of ambition dampen an otherwise worldly, fribbling, shrewd, untrue and courteous temperament..." (Full text as provided.)
Interpretation: Carelli describes a lazy, shrewd, yet courteous sensualist—spineless, easily swayed, prone to romantic trouble or "magic ensnarement." Self-focused, but harmless.
Mundane Terms: A charming loafer (speech, courtesy) uses tech (electronics) to flirt, writing shallow tales (literature) with family aid. Diet’s indulgence, not training; love affairs (setbacks) trap them—e.g., a scammed screenwriter too weak to resist.
Joan Weber
Symbol/Description: No specific corrected symbol; Weber’s The Degrees of the Zodiac focuses on psychological symbolism.
Interpretation: Weber might see 15 Libra as weighing relational choices—balancing self and others, with mental sharpness.
Mundane Terms: A quick-witted actor (movies, mimicry) or writer (literature) chooses between law enforcement roles and creative freedom (lawlessness), aided by kin. Health interests falter under indecision—e.g., a performer debating a fitness script.
Franz Bardon
Symbol/Description: No specific degree symbol; Bardon’s hermetic approach (Initiation into Hermetics) ties Libra to Venusian qualities—beauty, love, intuition.
Interpretation: Bardon would emphasize psychic or sensual gifts in relationships, needing discipline to shine.
Mundane Terms: A psychic writer (psyches, literature) or speaker uses tech (electronics) for art, supported by family. Health focus (diet) reflects Venusian indulgence—e.g., a mystic scripting movies, alert but dreamy.
David Cochrane
Symbol/Description: No specific symbol; Cochrane’s Astrology for the 21st Century uses empirical patterns, splitting degrees at times (14°–14°59' here).
Interpretation: Cochrane might note diplomacy and behavioral adaptability—speech and alertness in social roles.
Mundane Terms: A diplomatic filmmaker (movies, speech) or health blogger, sharp and kin-supported, balances law themes—e.g., a cop-turned-actor scripting justice tales with tech flair.
E.C. Matthews
Symbol/Description: No specific corrected symbol; Fixed Stars and Degrees of the Zodiac Analyzed ties 14° Libra to Vindemiatrix (nearby), suggesting loss or sacrifice.
Interpretation: Matthews might see a cost to Libra’s balance—sacrificing for harmony or health.
Mundane Terms: A writer (literature) or actor (movies) gives up ambition for family aid, focusing on diet over training—e.g., a health vlogger sidelined by injury (right inguinal gland), mentally alert but subdued.
Isidore Kozminsky – Corrected
Symbol: "A man who has just left the banquet table in a dazed condition, holding his hand to his head as if trying to remember something."
Interpretation: "Denotes one who is too psychic for strong drink and strong food, which throw him off his balance... a symbol of Obsession." Kozminsky highlights psychic sensitivity undone by excess, with potential for honor if resisted.
Mundane Terms: A dazed writer (psyches, literature) or filmmaker (movies), sharp until overindulging (diet), stumbles from a party—kin help (hopes), but obsession risks lawlessness. Think a psychic scripting a flop unless sober.
Esther V. Leinbach – Corrected
Symbol: "This degree contributes much to a theatrical career. Some of these natives never come out from the mask they wear..." (Full text as provided.)
Interpretation: Leinbach sees theatrical talent—acting, mimicry—with a risk of identity loss or obsession unless self-worth anchors them.
Mundane Terms: An actor (movies, mimicry) or speaker (speech), kin-backed, shines with health roles—e.g., a fitness skit star. Obsession blurs self—mentally alert, they mimic cops or crooks (law themes).
Janduz (Jeanne Duzéa) – Corrected
Symbol: "A man walks between two women with arms entwined."
Interpretation: "Cheerful, caring, but frivolous character prone to self-leniency and fickleness. Romance and marriage are most likely to be the sources of setbacks..." Janduz notes charm and relational play, with love as risk or reward.
Mundane Terms: A flirty writer (speech, literature) or actor (movies), tech-savvy, strolls with pals—family aids dreams, but romance flops unless chart-supported. Think a rom-com star tripping through love.
Synthesis in Mundane Terms
Core Themes: 15 Libra blends creativity (literature, movies), social charm (speech, relatives), and sensitivity (psyches, health), but risks excess (Charubel, Kozminsky), weakness (Carelli), or identity loss (Leinbach, Janduz). Here’s a composite picture:
Scenario: A mentally alert writer/actor (your traits) thrives in movies, supported by kin—e.g., scripting health skits (diet) with tech (electronics). They mimic roles (Leinbach, Sepharial), charming two friends (Janduz, Sepharial), but falter: overeating (Charubel, Kozminsky), flirting into trouble (Carelli, Janduz), or losing self to a mask (Leinbach). Law enforcement or lawlessness teeters—cop role vs. petty scams. Self-worth (Leinbach) or sobriety (Kozminsky) saves them; otherwise, they’re a dazed (Kozminsky), frivolous (Janduz) pig (Charubel).
Daily Life: Think a YouTuber juggling fitness vlogs and rom-com shorts, sharp until a banquet binge or love spat derails them—family pulls them back.
Contrasts:
Active vs. Passive: Leinbach (theater), Sepharial/Janduz (social) push expression; Charubel/Carelli lean lazy.
Risks: Obsession (Kozminsky, Leinbach), romance (Janduz, Carelli), or indulgence (Charubel, Kozminsky) threaten your traits’ potential.
Redemption: Discipline (Kozminsky), self-worth (Leinbach), or chart luck (Janduz) lifts them.
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Sandbach’s Chandra Symbols offer imaginative, intuitive images for each degree. For Libra 15 (14° Libra in his system), his symbol is:
Chandra Symbol: "A Chariot pulled by four elephants."
Interpretation: Sandbach describes this as a powerful, steady force moving toward a goal with grace and strength. The elephants suggest endurance and collective effort, while the chariot ties to direction and purpose. In mundane terms, this could mean a slow but unstoppable shift in a relationship or social dynamic, perhaps a group effort to restore balance or achieve a shared vision. The Libran flavor emphasizes diplomacy and cooperation, but with a grounded, almost ceremonial weight.
Ellias Lonsdale (Inside Degrees/Chandra-Based)
Lonsdale builds on Sandbach’s Chandra Symbols, adding a poetic, soul-level twist. For Libra 15 (14° Libra):
Symbol: "A Chariot pulled by four elephants." (Adopting Sandbach’s image)
Interpretation: Lonsdale might frame this as a karmic journey toward equilibrium, where the soul navigates partnerships or societal roles with profound intention. He’d likely see the elephants as ancient, instinctual forces—perhaps repressed emotions or collective traditions—pulling the chariot of conscious will. Mundanely, this could manifest as a pivotal moment in a relationship or community where old patterns are harnessed for a new, balanced outcome. His take leans mystical, suggesting a deeper unfolding of destiny through connection.
Marc Edmund Jones (Sabian Symbols)
Jones originated the Sabian Symbols, channeled in 1925 with psychic Elsie Wheeler. For Libra 15 (14° Libra in Sabian counting):
Sabian Symbol: "Circular paths."
Interpretation: Jones describes this as a symbol of returning to the same point, suggesting repetition or a need to revisit unresolved issues. In Libra, it could imply cycles in relationships—circling back to negotiate, reconcile, or perfect harmony. Mundanely, this might look like a situation where people keep rehashing old arguments or patterns in a partnership, workplace, or legal matter, seeking resolution. Jones emphasizes the practical: it’s about recognizing the loop and choosing how to step out (or not).
Dane Rudhyar (Sabian Symbols Refinement)
Rudhyar took Jones’s Sabian Symbols and gave them a philosophical, evolutionary spin. For Libra 15 (14° Libra):
Sabian Symbol: "Circular paths."
Keynote: "The need to recapture an ever-receding and idealized past, or to discover basic meanings in life processes."
Interpretation: Rudhyar sees this as a quest for meaning through repetition, tied to Libra’s relational and aesthetic ideals. The circular paths suggest a meditative or karmic process—perhaps revisiting past promises or ideals in a partnership to find closure or renewal. In mundane terms, this could be a couple stuck in a loop of nostalgia, a society clinging to outdated traditions, or an artist refining their craft through cycles of effort. Rudhyar adds a spiritual layer: it’s about transcending the circle to grow.
Synthesis in Mundane Terms:
Bovee: Likely a practical take—15 Libra as a turning point in balancing relationships or justice, no specific symbol.
Sandbach: A chariot with elephants—steady, collective progress in a social or relational sphere, like a community rallying for peace.
Lonsdale: The same chariot, but a soulful push through old relational baggage toward harmony, maybe a family reckoning.
Jones: Circular paths—repetitive cycles in partnerships or diplomacy, like a negotiation that won’t resolve.
Rudhyar: Circular paths as a deeper search for meaning, perhaps a nation or individual revisiting roots to move forward.
Together, 15 Libra might suggest a real-world scenario where a group (Cupido-esque, from earlier) faces a repetitive conflict (Jones/Rudhyar), resolved through deliberate, collective effort (Sandbach/Lonsdale), with an eye on practical harmony (Bovee). Think a stalled peace talk, a family reunion breaking old habits, or a workplace finding equilibrium after chaos.
If you want a specific event tied to this, give me a date or context, and I’ll refine it further!
Mundane Terms: A writer or speaker (literature, speech) negotiates a key partnership—e.g., a movie deal (favors work in movies) with family support (relatives helping hopes), balancing health interests with creative output. Think a diplomatic filmmaker sharpening their craft.
Sepharial (Walter Gorn Old) – Corrected
Symbol: "A man walking with two women, their arms linked in his." (Corrected from earlier "crown and purse" symbol.)
Interpretation: Sepharial views this as mediation or social influence—someone unifying dual forces with charm. In Libra, it’s about relational balance, possibly aided by others (fraternal support).
Mundane Terms: A charismatic figure—say, a talkative cop (law enforcement, speech) or tech-savvy mediator (electronics)—links two parties, arms entwined, with kin backing their goals. They mimic voices (mentally alert) in a movie role, harmonizing tensions.
Charubel (John Thomas) – Corrected
Symbol: "A fat pig lying down."
Interpretation: "Denotes one who will ever appear to live for self. Hence all his or her study will be: 'What shall I eat or what shall I drink?' At the same time a harmless person, one free from criminal acts. Being nearly destitute of ambition, he will care but little how." Charubel paints a self-indulgent, unambitious soul—focused on comfort, harmless but apathetic.
Mundane Terms: A lazy foodie (health, diet as indulgence) lounges with gadgets (electronics), writing about snacks (literature) with family funding (relatives helping). No law enforcement drive—lawlessness only in petty excess. Think a harmless slacker blogging from the couch.
Ada Muir
Symbol/Description: No specific corrected symbol provided; Muir’s The Degrees of the Zodiac Analyzed emphasizes practical character traits and cooperation.
Interpretation: Muir would likely see 15 Libra as a degree of teamwork and relational effort, aligning with Libra’s cooperative nature.
Mundane Terms: A writer or actor (movies, literature) teams up with siblings (relatives helping) for a health-focused project—e.g., a fitness vlog. Mentally alert, they balance law enforcement themes (or playful lawlessness) with charm, mimicking roles for fun.
Adriano Carelli – Corrected
Symbol: "A merely instinctive life. Laziness and lack of ambition dampen an otherwise worldly, fribbling, shrewd, untrue and courteous temperament..." (Full text as provided.)
Interpretation: Carelli describes a lazy, shrewd, yet courteous sensualist—spineless, easily swayed, prone to romantic trouble or "magic ensnarement." Self-focused, but harmless.
Mundane Terms: A charming loafer (speech, courtesy) uses tech (electronics) to flirt, writing shallow tales (literature) with family aid. Diet’s indulgence, not training; love affairs (setbacks) trap them—e.g., a scammed screenwriter too weak to resist.
Joan Weber
Symbol/Description: No specific corrected symbol; Weber’s The Degrees of the Zodiac focuses on psychological symbolism.
Interpretation: Weber might see 15 Libra as weighing relational choices—balancing self and others, with mental sharpness.
Mundane Terms: A quick-witted actor (movies, mimicry) or writer (literature) chooses between law enforcement roles and creative freedom (lawlessness), aided by kin. Health interests falter under indecision—e.g., a performer debating a fitness script.
Franz Bardon
Symbol/Description: No specific degree symbol; Bardon’s hermetic approach (Initiation into Hermetics) ties Libra to Venusian qualities—beauty, love, intuition.
Interpretation: Bardon would emphasize psychic or sensual gifts in relationships, needing discipline to shine.
Mundane Terms: A psychic writer (psyches, literature) or speaker uses tech (electronics) for art, supported by family. Health focus (diet) reflects Venusian indulgence—e.g., a mystic scripting movies, alert but dreamy.
David Cochrane
Symbol/Description: No specific symbol; Cochrane’s Astrology for the 21st Century uses empirical patterns, splitting degrees at times (14°–14°59' here).
Interpretation: Cochrane might note diplomacy and behavioral adaptability—speech and alertness in social roles.
Mundane Terms: A diplomatic filmmaker (movies, speech) or health blogger, sharp and kin-supported, balances law themes—e.g., a cop-turned-actor scripting justice tales with tech flair.
E.C. Matthews
Symbol/Description: No specific corrected symbol; Fixed Stars and Degrees of the Zodiac Analyzed ties 14° Libra to Vindemiatrix (nearby), suggesting loss or sacrifice.
Interpretation: Matthews might see a cost to Libra’s balance—sacrificing for harmony or health.
Mundane Terms: A writer (literature) or actor (movies) gives up ambition for family aid, focusing on diet over training—e.g., a health vlogger sidelined by injury (right inguinal gland), mentally alert but subdued.
Isidore Kozminsky – Corrected
Symbol: "A man who has just left the banquet table in a dazed condition, holding his hand to his head as if trying to remember something."
Interpretation: "Denotes one who is too psychic for strong drink and strong food, which throw him off his balance... a symbol of Obsession." Kozminsky highlights psychic sensitivity undone by excess, with potential for honor if resisted.
Mundane Terms: A dazed writer (psyches, literature) or filmmaker (movies), sharp until overindulging (diet), stumbles from a party—kin help (hopes), but obsession risks lawlessness. Think a psychic scripting a flop unless sober.
Esther V. Leinbach – Corrected
Symbol: "This degree contributes much to a theatrical career. Some of these natives never come out from the mask they wear..." (Full text as provided.)
Interpretation: Leinbach sees theatrical talent—acting, mimicry—with a risk of identity loss or obsession unless self-worth anchors them.
Mundane Terms: An actor (movies, mimicry) or speaker (speech), kin-backed, shines with health roles—e.g., a fitness skit star. Obsession blurs self—mentally alert, they mimic cops or crooks (law themes).
Janduz (Jeanne Duzéa) – Corrected
Symbol: "A man walks between two women with arms entwined."
Interpretation: "Cheerful, caring, but frivolous character prone to self-leniency and fickleness. Romance and marriage are most likely to be the sources of setbacks..." Janduz notes charm and relational play, with love as risk or reward.
Mundane Terms: A flirty writer (speech, literature) or actor (movies), tech-savvy, strolls with pals—family aids dreams, but romance flops unless chart-supported. Think a rom-com star tripping through love.
Synthesis in Mundane Terms
Core Themes: 15 Libra blends creativity (literature, movies), social charm (speech, relatives), and sensitivity (psyches, health), but risks excess (Charubel, Kozminsky), weakness (Carelli), or identity loss (Leinbach, Janduz). Here’s a composite picture:
Scenario: A mentally alert writer/actor (your traits) thrives in movies, supported by kin—e.g., scripting health skits (diet) with tech (electronics). They mimic roles (Leinbach, Sepharial), charming two friends (Janduz, Sepharial), but falter: overeating (Charubel, Kozminsky), flirting into trouble (Carelli, Janduz), or losing self to a mask (Leinbach). Law enforcement or lawlessness teeters—cop role vs. petty scams. Self-worth (Leinbach) or sobriety (Kozminsky) saves them; otherwise, they’re a dazed (Kozminsky), frivolous (Janduz) pig (Charubel).
Daily Life: Think a YouTuber juggling fitness vlogs and rom-com shorts, sharp until a banquet binge or love spat derails them—family pulls them back.
Contrasts:
Active vs. Passive: Leinbach (theater), Sepharial/Janduz (social) push expression; Charubel/Carelli lean lazy.
Risks: Obsession (Kozminsky, Leinbach), romance (Janduz, Carelli), or indulgence (Charubel, Kozminsky) threaten your traits’ potential.
Redemption: Discipline (Kozminsky), self-worth (Leinbach), or chart luck (Janduz) lifts them.
If “Henson” or others need adding, or you want 15–16° Libra, let me know—I’ll tweak it! What’s your next step?
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