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crimsoncurrentAP/MC Midpoint in Uranian Astrology:
The Aries Point (AP) at 0° Aries (or 0° of cardinal signs) represents connection to the collective, public exposure, or worldly impact. The Midheaven (MC) signifies the event’s public purpose, reputation, or legacy. The AP/MC midpoint blends these, indicating how the event resonates with society or gains widespread attention.
In Uranian astrology, a planet on the AP/MC midpoint (within a tight orb, typically 1–1.5°) suggests that the planet’s qualities are projected onto the world stage. Venus = AP/MC indicates the victims’ Venusian traits (e.g., beauty, social connections) are central to the event’s public narrative, potentially making it a widely discussed or emotionally resonant tragedy.
Midpoint Pictures: Uranian astrology emphasizes midpoints activated by hard aspects (conjunction, square, opposition, semi-square, sesquiquadrature). If Venus is on the AP/MC midpoint, it may form a planetary picture with other points, e.g., Venus = AP/MC = Mars/Pluto, amplifying themes of passion, violence, or transformation in the public sphere.
Venus on AP/MC in the Idaho Murders:
Public Sympathy and Attention: Venus on the AP/MC midpoint suggests the victims’ charm, youth, or relationships captured global attention, making the event a focal point in media and public discourse. The Idaho murders gained international coverage, with the victims’ lives (Venus) becoming a central narrative, evoking widespread sympathy.
Social and Relational Themes: Venus rules relationships and harmony, so the event may highlight the victims’ social circle or partnerships. The murders occurred in a shared off-campus house, and the victims’ friendships and romantic relationships (e.g., Xana and Ethan were a couple) were emphasized in reports, aligning with Venusian themes.
Aesthetic or Tragic Beauty: Venus on AP/MC can indicate a tragic beauty or idealized image of the victims, amplified in the public eye. The victims were portrayed as vibrant and beloved, enhancing the emotional impact of the tragedy.
Web Result Context: Per forensic astrology insights, Venus as the AS ruler on AP/MC aligns with its role in the 3rd or 11th house (social connections, community), emphasizing the victims’ social environment as a key factor in the event’s narrative.
27° Scorpio Connection:
If Venus or the AP/MC midpoint is at 27° Scorpio, the event carries Scorpio’s intense, transformative, and secretive energy, amplified by the Gemini degree influence (communication, per Nikola Stojanovic’s degree theory). Eric Schroeder’s interpretation for 27° Scorpio—“Energy depersonalised for promulgation: the future oriented self surrenders its altering ambition and all free destruction faculty for a wider actual dimension”—suggests the event transcends personal tragedy to serve a broader societal purpose, such as raising awareness about safety or justice.
Venus at 27° Scorpio: If Venus is at 27° Scorpio, it suggests the victims’ identity (AS ruler) is tied to deep, transformative, or hidden qualities. The public may perceive them as enigmatic or intense, and the event’s narrative may involve secrets or power dynamics (Scorpio themes). The “promulgation” aspect indicates widespread communication, such as social media discussions or true-crime coverage.
AP/MC at 27° Scorpio: If the AP/MC midpoint is at 27° Scorpio, the event’s public impact is transformative and intense, possibly exposing societal issues (e.g., campus safety, violence). The Gemini degree suggests the event sparks extensive media or public dialogue.
Sabian Symbol: The Sabian Symbol for 27° Scorpio, “A military band marches noisily through the city streets,” reinforces the event’s public, attention-grabbing nature, aligning with Venus = AP/MC’s visibility.
Black Moon Lilith Conjunct MC Context:
Your earlier question about Black Moon Lilith conjunct MC at 27° Scorpio suggests a provocative, rebellious, or taboo element in the event’s public perception. If Venus = AP/MC is also at 27° Scorpio, Lilith’s influence amplifies the event’s intensity, possibly highlighting themes of feminine power, victimization, or societal rebellion. The event may challenge norms or expose hidden truths, resonating with Schroeder’s “wider actual dimension.”
Example: The murders sparked discussions about gendered violence or safety for young women, aligning with Lilith’s themes of defiance and suppressed feminine energy.
Lunar Latitude Consideration:
If the Moon is at 27° Scorpio (per your earlier lunar latitude question), its latitude nuances the emotional tone:
North Latitude: The event’s emotional impact is outward, amplifying public sympathy (Venus = AP/MC).
South Latitude: The emotional focus is introspective, perhaps reflecting private grief or hidden motives.
Near Nodes: A karmic or fated quality enhances the event’s significance, tying to AP/MC’s global resonance.
The Moon’s involvement could intensify Venus’s emotional and relational themes, emphasizing the victims’ connections.
Orcus-Ceres Midpoint Connection:
If the Orcus-Ceres midpoint is at 27° Scorpio (per your earlier question), and Venus = AP/MC aligns with it, the event may involve nurturing (Ceres) through accountability or truth (Orcus). This could manifest as public calls for justice or memorial efforts for the victims, resonating with Schroeder’s “depersonalised for promulgation.”
Example: The victims’ families and communities (Ceres) sought justice (Orcus), amplified by public attention (AP/MC).
Uranian Astrology Techniques:
90-Degree Dial: In Uranian astrology, the 90-degree dial would show Venus = AP/MC as a focal point, with hard aspects (0°, 45°, 90°, 135°) to other planets or points (e.g., Mars/Pluto = Venus = AP/MC) indicating violence or transformation. For the Idaho murders, a Mars/Pluto or Hades (Uranian hypothetical planet for decay, crime) midpoint could highlight the violent nature of the event.
Midpoint Pictures: Check for additional midpoints involving Venus = AP/MC, such as:
Venus = AP/MC = Sun/Moon: The event balances conscious and emotional energies, with the victims’ likability (Venus) central to public perception.
Venus = AP/MC = Mars/Pluto: Suggests intense, violent, or transformative public impact, fitting a murder case.
Venus = AP/MC = Hades: Indicates hidden or dark elements (e.g., crime) gaining public attention.
Transneptunian Planets: Uranian planets like Hades (crime, decay) or Kronos (authority) could form midpoints with Venus = AP/MC, emphasizing the event’s dark or authoritative public narrative.
Specifics for the Idaho Murders Event Chart
Without the exact time, I’ll use an approximate chart for November 13, 2022, 3:00 AM, Moscow, Idaho, based on forensic timelines. Let’s assume Libra Ascendant (Venus-ruled, fitting the victims’ social charm) and calculate the AP/MC midpoint:
MC Estimation: If the MC is at, say, 24° Cancer (common for early morning in Moscow, Idaho), the AP/MC midpoint is:
0° Aries = 0°; 24° Cancer = 114°.
(0° + 114°) ÷ 2 = 57° = 27° Gemini or 27° Sagittarius (opposite point).
Venus Position: On November 13, 2022, Venus was at 24° Scorpio (based on ephemeris data), close to 27° Scorpio. If the MC is adjusted slightly (e.g., to 27° Scorpio, as per your earlier questions), the AP/MC midpoint could align closer to 27° Scorpio or its opposite, 27° Taurus.
Venus = AP/MC at 27° Scorpio: If Venus is at 27° Scorpio and aligns with the AP/MC midpoint, the victims’ identity (Venus as AS ruler) is deeply transformative and publicly significant, with Scorpio’s intensity and the Gemini degree’s communicative power driving global attention. Schroeder’s phrase suggests the event’s narrative transcends the personal tragedy, raising broader societal issues (e.g., safety, justice).
Forensic Astrology Insights (from web results):
In a forensic event chart, the AS ruler (Venus) represents the victim, and its placement on AP/MC indicates the victims’ story gains widespread attention. The 5th house (partying, romance) and Neptune in the 10th (confusion, mystery) align with Venus = AP/MC, suggesting the event’s social context and unclear circumstances fueled public fascination.
The chart may show Mercury and Jupiter (rulers of AS and DSC) conjunct in the 5th house, indicating a social or celebratory setting, with Venus = AP/MC amplifying the victims’ likability in the public eye.
Key Implications for the Idaho Murders
Public Resonance: Venus = AP/MC suggests the victims’ charm, youth, and relationships (Venus) became central to the event’s global narrative (AP/MC). The Idaho murders sparked widespread media coverage, true-crime podcasts, and social media discussions, reflecting Venus’s relational qualities and AP/MC’s visibility.
Transformative Impact: If at 27° Scorpio, the event carries Scorpio’s themes of transformation, secrets, and power dynamics, with Schroeder’s “promulgation” indicating extensive communication (e.g., news, social media). The tragedy prompted discussions about campus safety and justice systems.
Lilith-MC Synergy: If Black Moon Lilith is conjunct the MC at 27° Scorpio, it adds a provocative, taboo element, possibly highlighting gendered violence or societal shadows. Venus = AP/MC complements this, emphasizing the victims’ feminine or relational qualities in the public narrative.
Challenges: The event’s intensity (Scorpio, Lilith) and public focus (AP/MC) may overshadow the victims’ individuality, reducing them to symbols of a broader issue (Schroeder’s “depersonalised”). The Gemini degree suggests misinformation or speculation in media coverage.
Practical Advice for Analysis
Calculate the Chart: Use exact details (e.g., November 13, 2022, 3:00 AM, Moscow, Idaho) on Astro.com or a Uranian astrology tool to confirm the AS, MC, Venus position, and AP/MC midpoint. Check if Venus is within 1–1.5° of AP/MC.
Midpoint Trees: Analyze midpoint structures involving Venus = AP/MC, such as Venus = AP/MC = Mars/Pluto (violence) or Venus = AP/MC = Hades (crime). Use a 90-degree dial to identify hard aspects.
Incorporate Lilith and Orcus-Ceres: If Lilith is conjunct MC or the Orcus-Ceres midpoint is at 27° Scorpio, integrate their themes (rebellion, nurturing through truth) into the event’s public narrative.
Reflect on Schroeder’s Phrase: Use the “wider actual dimension” to explore how the event serves a societal purpose, such as advocating for safety or justice.
Sources
Zodiac: An Analysis of Symbolic Degrees by Eric Schroeder
The Meaning Of The 27th Degree In Astrology | AstroNiki
Forensic Astrology: Mystery Tragic Event | Astrodienst
Midpoint Corner | The Uranian Society
Personal & Reference Points in Midpoint Astrology | Uranian Institute
Aries Point in Astrology | Hiroki Niizato
Astrology Topics: Midpoints | Cafe Astrology
The Chart Ruler in Astrology | Ivana Astrology
If you provide the exact time and location of the event chart, I can calculate the precise AP/MC midpoint, Venus position, and lunar latitude to refine this interpretation. Would you like me to do so or focus on a specific aspect (e.g., Lilith, Orcus-Ceres)?
The Aries Point (AP) at 0° Aries (or 0° of cardinal signs) represents connection to the collective, public exposure, or worldly impact. The Midheaven (MC) signifies the event’s public purpose, reputation, or legacy. The AP/MC midpoint blends these, indicating how the event resonates with society or gains widespread attention.
In Uranian astrology, a planet on the AP/MC midpoint (within a tight orb, typically 1–1.5°) suggests that the planet’s qualities are projected onto the world stage. Venus = AP/MC indicates the victims’ Venusian traits (e.g., beauty, social connections) are central to the event’s public narrative, potentially making it a widely discussed or emotionally resonant tragedy.
Midpoint Pictures: Uranian astrology emphasizes midpoints activated by hard aspects (conjunction, square, opposition, semi-square, sesquiquadrature). If Venus is on the AP/MC midpoint, it may form a planetary picture with other points, e.g., Venus = AP/MC = Mars/Pluto, amplifying themes of passion, violence, or transformation in the public sphere.
Venus on AP/MC in the Idaho Murders:
Public Sympathy and Attention: Venus on the AP/MC midpoint suggests the victims’ charm, youth, or relationships captured global attention, making the event a focal point in media and public discourse. The Idaho murders gained international coverage, with the victims’ lives (Venus) becoming a central narrative, evoking widespread sympathy.
Social and Relational Themes: Venus rules relationships and harmony, so the event may highlight the victims’ social circle or partnerships. The murders occurred in a shared off-campus house, and the victims’ friendships and romantic relationships (e.g., Xana and Ethan were a couple) were emphasized in reports, aligning with Venusian themes.
Aesthetic or Tragic Beauty: Venus on AP/MC can indicate a tragic beauty or idealized image of the victims, amplified in the public eye. The victims were portrayed as vibrant and beloved, enhancing the emotional impact of the tragedy.
Web Result Context: Per forensic astrology insights, Venus as the AS ruler on AP/MC aligns with its role in the 3rd or 11th house (social connections, community), emphasizing the victims’ social environment as a key factor in the event’s narrative.
27° Scorpio Connection:
If Venus or the AP/MC midpoint is at 27° Scorpio, the event carries Scorpio’s intense, transformative, and secretive energy, amplified by the Gemini degree influence (communication, per Nikola Stojanovic’s degree theory). Eric Schroeder’s interpretation for 27° Scorpio—“Energy depersonalised for promulgation: the future oriented self surrenders its altering ambition and all free destruction faculty for a wider actual dimension”—suggests the event transcends personal tragedy to serve a broader societal purpose, such as raising awareness about safety or justice.
Venus at 27° Scorpio: If Venus is at 27° Scorpio, it suggests the victims’ identity (AS ruler) is tied to deep, transformative, or hidden qualities. The public may perceive them as enigmatic or intense, and the event’s narrative may involve secrets or power dynamics (Scorpio themes). The “promulgation” aspect indicates widespread communication, such as social media discussions or true-crime coverage.
AP/MC at 27° Scorpio: If the AP/MC midpoint is at 27° Scorpio, the event’s public impact is transformative and intense, possibly exposing societal issues (e.g., campus safety, violence). The Gemini degree suggests the event sparks extensive media or public dialogue.
Sabian Symbol: The Sabian Symbol for 27° Scorpio, “A military band marches noisily through the city streets,” reinforces the event’s public, attention-grabbing nature, aligning with Venus = AP/MC’s visibility.
Black Moon Lilith Conjunct MC Context:
Your earlier question about Black Moon Lilith conjunct MC at 27° Scorpio suggests a provocative, rebellious, or taboo element in the event’s public perception. If Venus = AP/MC is also at 27° Scorpio, Lilith’s influence amplifies the event’s intensity, possibly highlighting themes of feminine power, victimization, or societal rebellion. The event may challenge norms or expose hidden truths, resonating with Schroeder’s “wider actual dimension.”
Example: The murders sparked discussions about gendered violence or safety for young women, aligning with Lilith’s themes of defiance and suppressed feminine energy.
Lunar Latitude Consideration:
If the Moon is at 27° Scorpio (per your earlier lunar latitude question), its latitude nuances the emotional tone:
North Latitude: The event’s emotional impact is outward, amplifying public sympathy (Venus = AP/MC).
South Latitude: The emotional focus is introspective, perhaps reflecting private grief or hidden motives.
Near Nodes: A karmic or fated quality enhances the event’s significance, tying to AP/MC’s global resonance.
The Moon’s involvement could intensify Venus’s emotional and relational themes, emphasizing the victims’ connections.
Orcus-Ceres Midpoint Connection:
If the Orcus-Ceres midpoint is at 27° Scorpio (per your earlier question), and Venus = AP/MC aligns with it, the event may involve nurturing (Ceres) through accountability or truth (Orcus). This could manifest as public calls for justice or memorial efforts for the victims, resonating with Schroeder’s “depersonalised for promulgation.”
Example: The victims’ families and communities (Ceres) sought justice (Orcus), amplified by public attention (AP/MC).
Uranian Astrology Techniques:
90-Degree Dial: In Uranian astrology, the 90-degree dial would show Venus = AP/MC as a focal point, with hard aspects (0°, 45°, 90°, 135°) to other planets or points (e.g., Mars/Pluto = Venus = AP/MC) indicating violence or transformation. For the Idaho murders, a Mars/Pluto or Hades (Uranian hypothetical planet for decay, crime) midpoint could highlight the violent nature of the event.
Midpoint Pictures: Check for additional midpoints involving Venus = AP/MC, such as:
Venus = AP/MC = Sun/Moon: The event balances conscious and emotional energies, with the victims’ likability (Venus) central to public perception.
Venus = AP/MC = Mars/Pluto: Suggests intense, violent, or transformative public impact, fitting a murder case.
Venus = AP/MC = Hades: Indicates hidden or dark elements (e.g., crime) gaining public attention.
Transneptunian Planets: Uranian planets like Hades (crime, decay) or Kronos (authority) could form midpoints with Venus = AP/MC, emphasizing the event’s dark or authoritative public narrative.
Specifics for the Idaho Murders Event Chart
Without the exact time, I’ll use an approximate chart for November 13, 2022, 3:00 AM, Moscow, Idaho, based on forensic timelines. Let’s assume Libra Ascendant (Venus-ruled, fitting the victims’ social charm) and calculate the AP/MC midpoint:
MC Estimation: If the MC is at, say, 24° Cancer (common for early morning in Moscow, Idaho), the AP/MC midpoint is:
0° Aries = 0°; 24° Cancer = 114°.
(0° + 114°) ÷ 2 = 57° = 27° Gemini or 27° Sagittarius (opposite point).
Venus Position: On November 13, 2022, Venus was at 24° Scorpio (based on ephemeris data), close to 27° Scorpio. If the MC is adjusted slightly (e.g., to 27° Scorpio, as per your earlier questions), the AP/MC midpoint could align closer to 27° Scorpio or its opposite, 27° Taurus.
Venus = AP/MC at 27° Scorpio: If Venus is at 27° Scorpio and aligns with the AP/MC midpoint, the victims’ identity (Venus as AS ruler) is deeply transformative and publicly significant, with Scorpio’s intensity and the Gemini degree’s communicative power driving global attention. Schroeder’s phrase suggests the event’s narrative transcends the personal tragedy, raising broader societal issues (e.g., safety, justice).
Forensic Astrology Insights (from web results):
In a forensic event chart, the AS ruler (Venus) represents the victim, and its placement on AP/MC indicates the victims’ story gains widespread attention. The 5th house (partying, romance) and Neptune in the 10th (confusion, mystery) align with Venus = AP/MC, suggesting the event’s social context and unclear circumstances fueled public fascination.
The chart may show Mercury and Jupiter (rulers of AS and DSC) conjunct in the 5th house, indicating a social or celebratory setting, with Venus = AP/MC amplifying the victims’ likability in the public eye.
Key Implications for the Idaho Murders
Public Resonance: Venus = AP/MC suggests the victims’ charm, youth, and relationships (Venus) became central to the event’s global narrative (AP/MC). The Idaho murders sparked widespread media coverage, true-crime podcasts, and social media discussions, reflecting Venus’s relational qualities and AP/MC’s visibility.
Transformative Impact: If at 27° Scorpio, the event carries Scorpio’s themes of transformation, secrets, and power dynamics, with Schroeder’s “promulgation” indicating extensive communication (e.g., news, social media). The tragedy prompted discussions about campus safety and justice systems.
Lilith-MC Synergy: If Black Moon Lilith is conjunct the MC at 27° Scorpio, it adds a provocative, taboo element, possibly highlighting gendered violence or societal shadows. Venus = AP/MC complements this, emphasizing the victims’ feminine or relational qualities in the public narrative.
Challenges: The event’s intensity (Scorpio, Lilith) and public focus (AP/MC) may overshadow the victims’ individuality, reducing them to symbols of a broader issue (Schroeder’s “depersonalised”). The Gemini degree suggests misinformation or speculation in media coverage.
Practical Advice for Analysis
Calculate the Chart: Use exact details (e.g., November 13, 2022, 3:00 AM, Moscow, Idaho) on Astro.com or a Uranian astrology tool to confirm the AS, MC, Venus position, and AP/MC midpoint. Check if Venus is within 1–1.5° of AP/MC.
Midpoint Trees: Analyze midpoint structures involving Venus = AP/MC, such as Venus = AP/MC = Mars/Pluto (violence) or Venus = AP/MC = Hades (crime). Use a 90-degree dial to identify hard aspects.
Incorporate Lilith and Orcus-Ceres: If Lilith is conjunct MC or the Orcus-Ceres midpoint is at 27° Scorpio, integrate their themes (rebellion, nurturing through truth) into the event’s public narrative.
Reflect on Schroeder’s Phrase: Use the “wider actual dimension” to explore how the event serves a societal purpose, such as advocating for safety or justice.
Sources
Zodiac: An Analysis of Symbolic Degrees by Eric Schroeder
The Meaning Of The 27th Degree In Astrology | AstroNiki
Forensic Astrology: Mystery Tragic Event | Astrodienst
Midpoint Corner | The Uranian Society
Personal & Reference Points in Midpoint Astrology | Uranian Institute
Aries Point in Astrology | Hiroki Niizato
Astrology Topics: Midpoints | Cafe Astrology
The Chart Ruler in Astrology | Ivana Astrology
If you provide the exact time and location of the event chart, I can calculate the precise AP/MC midpoint, Venus position, and lunar latitude to refine this interpretation. Would you like me to do so or focus on a specific aspect (e.g., Lilith, Orcus-Ceres)?