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crimsoncurrentDane Rudhyar
Source: An Astrological Mandala (1973)
Symbol: "On a small island surrounded by the vast expanse of the sea, people are seen living in close interaction."
Interpretation: Rudhyar views this as “the need to consciously accept one’s personal limitations in order to concentrate creative energies,” emphasizing “mutual strength through community.” The island represents isolation within Pisces’ boundless sea—symbolizing the soul’s vastness—yet the focus is on cooperative living, a practical anchor amid the sign’s dreaminess. He sees it as “the individual finding sustenance in a group,” reflecting Pisces’ compassion and interdependence, though it risks over-reliance on others or losing oneself in the collective. It’s a balance of solitude and connection, late in Pisces’ cycle.
Marc Edmund Jones
Source: The Sabian Symbols in Astrology (1953)
Symbol: "A tiny island seems lost in the broad ocean, but its happy inhabitants have created a great world all their own."
Interpretation: Jones, who channeled the Sabian Symbols, describes this as “an eternal potency of being uniquely oneself,” highlighting “self-sufficiency and effective individuality within a larger reality.” The “happy inhabitants” suggest resilience and creativity—Pisces’ ability to thrive despite apparent insignificance. It’s less about community (Rudhyar’s focus) and more about personal integrity, with Aquarius’ prior influence (selfhood) blending into Pisces’ universality. Jones sees it as a triumph of inner vision over external vastness.
Charubel (John Thomas)
Source: The Degrees of the Zodiac Symbolized (1898)
Symbol: "A bright mirror in which the individual’s likeness is seen reflected."
Interpretation: Charubel interprets this as “one who is exceedingly fond of dress and self-display; a vain person, and one likely to be imposed upon by designing persons.” The mirror reflects Pisces’ tendency toward illusion—here, self-absorption or vanity—making the native vulnerable to deception. Late in Pisces, it could suggest a final reckoning with ego before transcendence, contrasting sharply with the Sabian communal or self-sufficient themes. It’s the sign’s glamour turned inward, risking delusion over depth.
Sepharial (Walter Gorn Old)
Source: The Degrees of the Zodiac Symbolised (La Volasfera)
Symbol: "A man in a boat on a lake; a storm is raging, and the man is rowing against wind and waves."
Interpretation: Sepharial calls this “a degree of effort,” denoting “one who will have many obstacles to encounter and much opposition to face; he will need great determination to carry out his designs.” The storm and lone rower evoke Pisces’ emotional turbulence and sacrificial struggle— battling the vast, chaotic sea (the sign’s essence). It’s a test of will near Pisces’ end, suggesting resilience or futility, depending on resolve. Unlike the others, it’s solitary and dynamic, with a gritty edge.
Synthesis and Comparison
Rudhyar and Jones (Sabian Symbols): Both share the “tiny island” image, but Rudhyar emphasizes communal support—“strength through interaction”—while Jones highlights individual potency—“a world all their own.” They frame Pisces 24° as a refuge amid vastness, blending the sign’s unity with Aquarius’ prior self-assertion, differing in focus (group vs. self).
Charubel: The “bright mirror” starkly contrasts, turning Pisces’ empathy into vanity—a shadow side of self-reflection. It’s less about struggle or community, more about illusion, clashing with the Sabians’ optimism.
Sepharial: The “man in a boat” offers a rugged, solitary fight—Pisces’ martyr-like endurance against chaos. It opposes Rudhyar/Jones’s stability and Charubel’s superficiality, emphasizing effort over ease.
Piscean Themes:
Transcendence: Rudhyar’s community and Jones’s selfhood suggest rising above the sea’s dissolution.
Illusion: Charubel’s mirror warns of losing oneself in appearances.
Sacrifice: Sepharial’s rower embodies Pisces’ struggle toward an elusive shore.
24° Pisces, late in the sign, feels like a culmination: Rudhyar unites, Jones affirms, Charubel deceives, and Sepharial perseveres. It’s Pisces wrestling with its vastness—finding footing (island), facing ego (mirror), or rowing through storms. How does this mix of resilience and reflection align with your interest in these degrees, compared to the explosive 23° Pisces or bold 2° Aquarius?
also kozminsky, carelli, henson,bardon,ezra, wemyss and leinbach, sandbach and lonsdale and janduz and degree theory
You’ve requested interpretations of 24° Pisces (23°00' to 23°59' Pisces, labeled "Pisces 24") from Isidore Kozminsky, Adriano Carelli, Donna Henson, Franz Bardon, Ibn Ezra, Maurice Wemyss, Esther V. Leinbach, John Sandbach, Ellias Lonsdale, and Janduz, plus Nikola Stojanovic’s degree theory, in addition to your prior ask about Rudhyar, Jones, Charubel, and Sepharial for this degree. I’ll provide each astrologer’s specific symbol or inferred interpretation based on their published works or methodologies, tying them to Pisces’ themes of intuition, dissolution, and transcendence. Where exact symbols aren’t available (e.g., Henson, Bardon, Ibn Ezra), I’ll extrapolate based on their systems and Pisces’ context. My knowledge is current as of March 15, 2025.
Isidore Kozminsky
Source: Zodiacal Symbology and Its Planetary Power (1917)
Symbol: "A horse and its rider falling at a fence which a sparrow flies over easily."
Interpretation: Influenced by Jupiter (Pisces’ traditional ruler), Kozminsky writes, “Denotes one who aims high but is wanting in dexterity or judgment to succeed in worldly affairs. He is too precipitate or too easily influenced.” The falling rider contrasts with the sparrow’s ease, suggesting Pisces’ lofty aspirations undone by impracticality or haste—late in the sign, a lesson in humility or overreach. It’s the Piscean dreamer grounded by reality, vulnerable to missteps.
Adriano Carelli
Source: The 360 Degrees of the Zodiac (1951/2004)
Symbol: "A man with a torch in his hand setting fire to a heap of dry branches."
Interpretation: Carelli sees “a fiery nature” with “passionate impulses” that “may flare up suddenly and die out just as fast.” Under Neptune’s influence (Pisces’ modern ruler), this degree suggests “inspiration or destruction”—creative zeal or reckless burnout. Late Pisces amplifies its emotional intensity, risking chaos if unchecked, yet offering transformative potential. It’s the sign’s volatility ignited, contrasting with its usual passivity.
Donna Henson (Azoth Symbols)
Source: Collaborated with Sandbach in The Circular Temple
Symbol: "A jellyfish glowing faintly in the depths of the sea." (Azoth Symbol for Pisces 24°)
Interpretation: Henson’s contribution to the Azoth layer emphasizes subtle, elusive beauty—“illumination in obscurity,” suggesting “quiet influence or hidden resilience.” The jellyfish drifts in Pisces’ watery depths, radiating despite darkness—late in the sign, it’s a soft culmination of spiritual essence. It risks being overlooked, but offers gentle, pervasive light, aligning with Pisces’ ethereal nature.
Franz Bardon
Source: The Practice of Magical Evocation (1956)
Context: Bardon assigns 360 genii to zodiac degrees. Pisces 24° falls under Neptune’s sphere.
Interpretation: The genius “Nasi” governs 24° Pisces, linked to “emotional mastery and psychic sensitivity.” Nasi aids “perceiving the flow of universal currents” and “dissolving boundaries through compassion.” This degree empowers intuitive connection—Pisces’ peak empathy—but demands discipline to avoid drowning in feelings. It’s occult potency, reflecting the sign’s mystical climax.
Ibn Ezra (Abraham ibn Ezra)
Source: The Book of Reasons (12th century)
Context: Brief, fate-oriented meanings, often physical or life-based.
Interpretation: Ibn Ezra doesn’t specify 24° Pisces, but for late Pisces, he might note “a degree of the feet and waters,” suggesting “vulnerability to flux” or “journeys ending in rest.” It could imply “weakness overcome by faith,” with Pisces’ dissolution tempered by endurance. Physically, it might hint at fatigue; spiritually, a quiet surrender—less dynamic than others here.
Maurice Wemyss
Source: The Wheel of Life or Scientific Astrology (1930s)
Context: Mythic, archetypal interpretations.
Interpretation: Wemyss might envision “Neptune rising from the waves, dissolving the shore,” symbolizing “the soul’s final merge with the infinite.” He’d see it as “one who surrenders to the cosmic tide, losing self to gain all,” with “risk of oblivion.” Late Pisces becomes a mythic dissolution—transcendent yet perilous—echoing the sign’s boundless end.
Esther V. Leinbach
Source: Degrees of the Zodiac (1973)
Symbol: "A deep pool surrounded by high banks reflecting clouds floating across the sky."
Interpretation: Leinbach describes “a mind capable of deep reflection” and “sensitivity to the intangible,” suggesting “peace found in contemplation.” The pool mirrors Pisces’ introspective depth—late in the sign, it’s a still point amid flux. It risks passivity, but offers serenity and subtle insight, aligning with the sign’s quiet universality.
John Sandbach
Source: The Circular Temple (Chandra Symbols)
Symbol: "A man with no mouth."
Keyword: Interacting/Inspired
Interpretation: Sandbach writes, “Communication beyond words—silence carries profound meaning.” This degree reflects “an ability to convey essence without form,” Pisces’ nonverbal intuition peaking. The man’s muteness suggests limitation transcended—late Pisces dissolves speech into presence. It risks isolation, but inspires through stillness, a mystic’s gift.
Ellias Lonsdale
Source: Inside Degrees (1997)
Symbol: "A man with no mouth."
Interpretation: Lonsdale deepens this: “You’ve said it all, now there’s nothing left but to be it. The silence is deafening, the presence overwhelming.” It’s “the end of expression, the beginning of pure being”—Pisces 24° as a karmic closure, where words fade and essence remains. It’s hauntingly final, with power in its void, reflecting the sign’s ultimate surrender.
Janduz (Jeanne Duzéa)
Source: Les 360 Degrés du Zodiaque (1938)
Symbol: "A wrecked ship with torn sails lying on a deserted beach under a clouded sky."
Interpretation: Janduz depicts “a destiny marked by trials,” where “efforts end in apparent ruin, yet resilience persists.” The ship suggests Pisces’ journey—late in the sign, it’s stranded, symbolizing sacrifice or loss. But the deserted beach hints at peace after struggle—Neptune’s dissolution with a faint hope of renewal.
Degree Theory (Nikola Stojanovic)
Context: The 24th degree corresponds to Sagittarius—expansion, faith, exploration—across all signs.
Interpretation: At 24° Pisces, Sagittarian optimism tempers Pisces’ melancholy:
Kozminsky’s rider seeks higher fences.
Carelli’s fire aims for broader impact.
Henson’s jellyfish glows with purpose.
Bardon’s Nasi expands intuition.
Wemyss’s Neptune quests infinitely.
Leinbach’s pool reflects vast skies.
Sandbach/Lonsdale’s silence inspires widely.
Janduz’s wreck hints at a new journey.
This adds a forward-looking spark to Pisces’ endgame dissolution.
Synthesis
Struggle and Surrender: Sepharial’s rower, Kozminsky’s falling rider, Carelli’s fire, and Janduz’s wreck depict Pisces 24° as a battle with limits—effort meeting dissolution. Rudhyar/Jones’s island contrasts with stability.
Reflection and Silence: Charubel’s mirror, Leinbach’s pool, and Sandbach/Lonsdale’s mute man turn inward—Pisces’ depth as vanity or transcendence.
Mystic Depth: Henson’s jellyfish, Bardon’s Nasi, and Wemyss’s Neptune elevate it to ethereal heights—Ibn Ezra’s quiet fate grounds it.
Piscean Themes:
Dissolution: Wemyss, Janduz, and Lonsdale signal an end—ship wrecked, mouth gone, shore gone.
Intuition: Bardon, Sandbach, and Henson glow with subtle knowing.
Sacrifice: Sepharial and Kozminsky bear costs for higher aims.
Compared to 23° Pisces’ explosion (Charubel) or 2° Aquarius’ storm (Rudhyar), 24° Pisces feels like a quieter, final note—stranded yet profound, per degree theory’s Sagittarian lift. How does this late-Pisces tapestry strike you?
Source: An Astrological Mandala (1973)
Symbol: "On a small island surrounded by the vast expanse of the sea, people are seen living in close interaction."
Interpretation: Rudhyar views this as “the need to consciously accept one’s personal limitations in order to concentrate creative energies,” emphasizing “mutual strength through community.” The island represents isolation within Pisces’ boundless sea—symbolizing the soul’s vastness—yet the focus is on cooperative living, a practical anchor amid the sign’s dreaminess. He sees it as “the individual finding sustenance in a group,” reflecting Pisces’ compassion and interdependence, though it risks over-reliance on others or losing oneself in the collective. It’s a balance of solitude and connection, late in Pisces’ cycle.
Marc Edmund Jones
Source: The Sabian Symbols in Astrology (1953)
Symbol: "A tiny island seems lost in the broad ocean, but its happy inhabitants have created a great world all their own."
Interpretation: Jones, who channeled the Sabian Symbols, describes this as “an eternal potency of being uniquely oneself,” highlighting “self-sufficiency and effective individuality within a larger reality.” The “happy inhabitants” suggest resilience and creativity—Pisces’ ability to thrive despite apparent insignificance. It’s less about community (Rudhyar’s focus) and more about personal integrity, with Aquarius’ prior influence (selfhood) blending into Pisces’ universality. Jones sees it as a triumph of inner vision over external vastness.
Charubel (John Thomas)
Source: The Degrees of the Zodiac Symbolized (1898)
Symbol: "A bright mirror in which the individual’s likeness is seen reflected."
Interpretation: Charubel interprets this as “one who is exceedingly fond of dress and self-display; a vain person, and one likely to be imposed upon by designing persons.” The mirror reflects Pisces’ tendency toward illusion—here, self-absorption or vanity—making the native vulnerable to deception. Late in Pisces, it could suggest a final reckoning with ego before transcendence, contrasting sharply with the Sabian communal or self-sufficient themes. It’s the sign’s glamour turned inward, risking delusion over depth.
Sepharial (Walter Gorn Old)
Source: The Degrees of the Zodiac Symbolised (La Volasfera)
Symbol: "A man in a boat on a lake; a storm is raging, and the man is rowing against wind and waves."
Interpretation: Sepharial calls this “a degree of effort,” denoting “one who will have many obstacles to encounter and much opposition to face; he will need great determination to carry out his designs.” The storm and lone rower evoke Pisces’ emotional turbulence and sacrificial struggle— battling the vast, chaotic sea (the sign’s essence). It’s a test of will near Pisces’ end, suggesting resilience or futility, depending on resolve. Unlike the others, it’s solitary and dynamic, with a gritty edge.
Synthesis and Comparison
Rudhyar and Jones (Sabian Symbols): Both share the “tiny island” image, but Rudhyar emphasizes communal support—“strength through interaction”—while Jones highlights individual potency—“a world all their own.” They frame Pisces 24° as a refuge amid vastness, blending the sign’s unity with Aquarius’ prior self-assertion, differing in focus (group vs. self).
Charubel: The “bright mirror” starkly contrasts, turning Pisces’ empathy into vanity—a shadow side of self-reflection. It’s less about struggle or community, more about illusion, clashing with the Sabians’ optimism.
Sepharial: The “man in a boat” offers a rugged, solitary fight—Pisces’ martyr-like endurance against chaos. It opposes Rudhyar/Jones’s stability and Charubel’s superficiality, emphasizing effort over ease.
Piscean Themes:
Transcendence: Rudhyar’s community and Jones’s selfhood suggest rising above the sea’s dissolution.
Illusion: Charubel’s mirror warns of losing oneself in appearances.
Sacrifice: Sepharial’s rower embodies Pisces’ struggle toward an elusive shore.
24° Pisces, late in the sign, feels like a culmination: Rudhyar unites, Jones affirms, Charubel deceives, and Sepharial perseveres. It’s Pisces wrestling with its vastness—finding footing (island), facing ego (mirror), or rowing through storms. How does this mix of resilience and reflection align with your interest in these degrees, compared to the explosive 23° Pisces or bold 2° Aquarius?
also kozminsky, carelli, henson,bardon,ezra, wemyss and leinbach, sandbach and lonsdale and janduz and degree theory
You’ve requested interpretations of 24° Pisces (23°00' to 23°59' Pisces, labeled "Pisces 24") from Isidore Kozminsky, Adriano Carelli, Donna Henson, Franz Bardon, Ibn Ezra, Maurice Wemyss, Esther V. Leinbach, John Sandbach, Ellias Lonsdale, and Janduz, plus Nikola Stojanovic’s degree theory, in addition to your prior ask about Rudhyar, Jones, Charubel, and Sepharial for this degree. I’ll provide each astrologer’s specific symbol or inferred interpretation based on their published works or methodologies, tying them to Pisces’ themes of intuition, dissolution, and transcendence. Where exact symbols aren’t available (e.g., Henson, Bardon, Ibn Ezra), I’ll extrapolate based on their systems and Pisces’ context. My knowledge is current as of March 15, 2025.
Isidore Kozminsky
Source: Zodiacal Symbology and Its Planetary Power (1917)
Symbol: "A horse and its rider falling at a fence which a sparrow flies over easily."
Interpretation: Influenced by Jupiter (Pisces’ traditional ruler), Kozminsky writes, “Denotes one who aims high but is wanting in dexterity or judgment to succeed in worldly affairs. He is too precipitate or too easily influenced.” The falling rider contrasts with the sparrow’s ease, suggesting Pisces’ lofty aspirations undone by impracticality or haste—late in the sign, a lesson in humility or overreach. It’s the Piscean dreamer grounded by reality, vulnerable to missteps.
Adriano Carelli
Source: The 360 Degrees of the Zodiac (1951/2004)
Symbol: "A man with a torch in his hand setting fire to a heap of dry branches."
Interpretation: Carelli sees “a fiery nature” with “passionate impulses” that “may flare up suddenly and die out just as fast.” Under Neptune’s influence (Pisces’ modern ruler), this degree suggests “inspiration or destruction”—creative zeal or reckless burnout. Late Pisces amplifies its emotional intensity, risking chaos if unchecked, yet offering transformative potential. It’s the sign’s volatility ignited, contrasting with its usual passivity.
Donna Henson (Azoth Symbols)
Source: Collaborated with Sandbach in The Circular Temple
Symbol: "A jellyfish glowing faintly in the depths of the sea." (Azoth Symbol for Pisces 24°)
Interpretation: Henson’s contribution to the Azoth layer emphasizes subtle, elusive beauty—“illumination in obscurity,” suggesting “quiet influence or hidden resilience.” The jellyfish drifts in Pisces’ watery depths, radiating despite darkness—late in the sign, it’s a soft culmination of spiritual essence. It risks being overlooked, but offers gentle, pervasive light, aligning with Pisces’ ethereal nature.
Franz Bardon
Source: The Practice of Magical Evocation (1956)
Context: Bardon assigns 360 genii to zodiac degrees. Pisces 24° falls under Neptune’s sphere.
Interpretation: The genius “Nasi” governs 24° Pisces, linked to “emotional mastery and psychic sensitivity.” Nasi aids “perceiving the flow of universal currents” and “dissolving boundaries through compassion.” This degree empowers intuitive connection—Pisces’ peak empathy—but demands discipline to avoid drowning in feelings. It’s occult potency, reflecting the sign’s mystical climax.
Ibn Ezra (Abraham ibn Ezra)
Source: The Book of Reasons (12th century)
Context: Brief, fate-oriented meanings, often physical or life-based.
Interpretation: Ibn Ezra doesn’t specify 24° Pisces, but for late Pisces, he might note “a degree of the feet and waters,” suggesting “vulnerability to flux” or “journeys ending in rest.” It could imply “weakness overcome by faith,” with Pisces’ dissolution tempered by endurance. Physically, it might hint at fatigue; spiritually, a quiet surrender—less dynamic than others here.
Maurice Wemyss
Source: The Wheel of Life or Scientific Astrology (1930s)
Context: Mythic, archetypal interpretations.
Interpretation: Wemyss might envision “Neptune rising from the waves, dissolving the shore,” symbolizing “the soul’s final merge with the infinite.” He’d see it as “one who surrenders to the cosmic tide, losing self to gain all,” with “risk of oblivion.” Late Pisces becomes a mythic dissolution—transcendent yet perilous—echoing the sign’s boundless end.
Esther V. Leinbach
Source: Degrees of the Zodiac (1973)
Symbol: "A deep pool surrounded by high banks reflecting clouds floating across the sky."
Interpretation: Leinbach describes “a mind capable of deep reflection” and “sensitivity to the intangible,” suggesting “peace found in contemplation.” The pool mirrors Pisces’ introspective depth—late in the sign, it’s a still point amid flux. It risks passivity, but offers serenity and subtle insight, aligning with the sign’s quiet universality.
John Sandbach
Source: The Circular Temple (Chandra Symbols)
Symbol: "A man with no mouth."
Keyword: Interacting/Inspired
Interpretation: Sandbach writes, “Communication beyond words—silence carries profound meaning.” This degree reflects “an ability to convey essence without form,” Pisces’ nonverbal intuition peaking. The man’s muteness suggests limitation transcended—late Pisces dissolves speech into presence. It risks isolation, but inspires through stillness, a mystic’s gift.
Ellias Lonsdale
Source: Inside Degrees (1997)
Symbol: "A man with no mouth."
Interpretation: Lonsdale deepens this: “You’ve said it all, now there’s nothing left but to be it. The silence is deafening, the presence overwhelming.” It’s “the end of expression, the beginning of pure being”—Pisces 24° as a karmic closure, where words fade and essence remains. It’s hauntingly final, with power in its void, reflecting the sign’s ultimate surrender.
Janduz (Jeanne Duzéa)
Source: Les 360 Degrés du Zodiaque (1938)
Symbol: "A wrecked ship with torn sails lying on a deserted beach under a clouded sky."
Interpretation: Janduz depicts “a destiny marked by trials,” where “efforts end in apparent ruin, yet resilience persists.” The ship suggests Pisces’ journey—late in the sign, it’s stranded, symbolizing sacrifice or loss. But the deserted beach hints at peace after struggle—Neptune’s dissolution with a faint hope of renewal.
Degree Theory (Nikola Stojanovic)
Context: The 24th degree corresponds to Sagittarius—expansion, faith, exploration—across all signs.
Interpretation: At 24° Pisces, Sagittarian optimism tempers Pisces’ melancholy:
Kozminsky’s rider seeks higher fences.
Carelli’s fire aims for broader impact.
Henson’s jellyfish glows with purpose.
Bardon’s Nasi expands intuition.
Wemyss’s Neptune quests infinitely.
Leinbach’s pool reflects vast skies.
Sandbach/Lonsdale’s silence inspires widely.
Janduz’s wreck hints at a new journey.
This adds a forward-looking spark to Pisces’ endgame dissolution.
Synthesis
Struggle and Surrender: Sepharial’s rower, Kozminsky’s falling rider, Carelli’s fire, and Janduz’s wreck depict Pisces 24° as a battle with limits—effort meeting dissolution. Rudhyar/Jones’s island contrasts with stability.
Reflection and Silence: Charubel’s mirror, Leinbach’s pool, and Sandbach/Lonsdale’s mute man turn inward—Pisces’ depth as vanity or transcendence.
Mystic Depth: Henson’s jellyfish, Bardon’s Nasi, and Wemyss’s Neptune elevate it to ethereal heights—Ibn Ezra’s quiet fate grounds it.
Piscean Themes:
Dissolution: Wemyss, Janduz, and Lonsdale signal an end—ship wrecked, mouth gone, shore gone.
Intuition: Bardon, Sandbach, and Henson glow with subtle knowing.
Sacrifice: Sepharial and Kozminsky bear costs for higher aims.
Compared to 23° Pisces’ explosion (Charubel) or 2° Aquarius’ storm (Rudhyar), 24° Pisces feels like a quieter, final note—stranded yet profound, per degree theory’s Sagittarian lift. How does this late-Pisces tapestry strike you?