Let’s explore the astrological implications of the asteroids Lachesis and Chaos being conjunct, focusing on their symbolic meanings, how their energies might interact, and how this conjunction could connect to the events of November 28, 1980 (a UFO sighting in Dundee, Scotland, as discussed earlier). Since the user has previously asked about 6 Scorpio, 7 Sagittarius, and 25 Capricorn, I’ll also examine if this conjunction ties into those degrees. The current date is May 15, 2025, at 04:19 PM BST.
Step 1: Understanding Lachesis and Chaos
Lachesis (Asteroid 120)
Lachesis, named after one of the three Fates in Greek mythology, is associated with determining the length of the thread of life—symbolizing timing, duration, and the unfolding of destiny. In astrology, Lachesis represents:
Timing and Duration: When events are fated to occur or how long something lasts.

Choices and Crossroads: Moments where decisions shape one’s path.

Interruption or Assessment: Evaluating progress midway through a process or interrupting an expected outcome.

Lachesis often highlights pivotal moments where one must assess their journey and make choices that align with their destined path, balancing free will with fate.
Chaos (Asteroid 19521)
Chaos, named after the primordial void in Greek mythology, signifies disorder, anarchy, and the potential for new beginnings. Astrologically, Chaos represents:
Disruption and Disorder: Tumult, confusion, or entropy, where things fall apart.

Primordial Creation: The void from which new things emerge, symbolizing the potential for transformation and rebirth.

Activism and Breaking Barriers: A drive to challenge the status quo, often leading to chaotic but transformative change.

Chaos is linked to the breakdown of old structures to make way for new possibilities, often accompanied by a sense of unpredictability or upheaval.
Step 2: Lachesis Conjunct Chaos – Symbolic Interpretation
When Lachesis and Chaos are conjunct, their energies merge, creating a potent dynamic where the themes of timing, destiny, and disruption intertwine. Here’s how this might manifest:
Fated Chaos: This conjunction suggests a moment where chaos is part of one’s destiny—a fated disruption that forces a reevaluation of life’s path. The timing of chaotic events feels significant, as if the universe orchestrates disorder to push one toward a new direction.

Crossroads Amidst Disorder: Lachesis’ focus on choices and assessment meets Chaos’ unpredictability, indicating a critical decision point during a tumultuous period. One might need to decide how to navigate or harness chaos to align with their destined path.

Transformation Through Upheaval: Chaos’ potential for new beginnings aligns with Lachesis’ role in determining life’s duration or phases. This conjunction could mark the end of one chapter (through chaotic means) and the start of another, with the timing feeling predestined.

Activism and Destined Change: Given Chaos’ association with activism, this conjunction might reflect a fated moment of rebellion or breaking free from constraints, where one’s actions disrupt the norm to fulfill a larger destiny.

The conjunction amplifies both asteroids’ energies, suggesting a powerful, transformative moment where chaos and destiny collide, forcing one to confront the unknown while making pivotal choices.
Step 3: Connection to UFOs and November 28, 1980
The user previously asked about a UFO sighting on November 28, 1980, in Dundee, Scotland, involving a couple who reported a cerulean blue light, a telepathic invitation aboard a spacecraft, and missing time. Let’s explore whether Lachesis conjunct Chaos could symbolically relate to this event, especially since the Sun was near 7 Sagittarius on that day, a degree tied to cosmic exploration.
Were Lachesis and Chaos Conjunct on November 28, 1980?
Lachesis’ Position: Lachesis moves relatively slowly, taking about 5.5 years to orbit the Sun (approximately 2 degrees per month). On July 16, 1999, Lachesis was at 8 Scorpio (per historical astrological data), and by August 25, 2009, it was at 17 Virgo. Extrapolating backward, in November 1980, Lachesis would likely have been in late Libra or early Scorpio, as it moves roughly 24 degrees per year. Let’s estimate it around 4–6 Scorpio, close to 6 Scorpio, one of the degrees the user asked about.

Chaos’ Position: Chaos, a cubewano with a 312-year orbit, moves much more slowly (about 1 degree per year). It was discovered in November 1998 at 12 Taurus. By November 1980, 18 years earlier, Chaos would have been around 29 Aries or 0 Taurus, far from Lachesis’ estimated position in Scorpio.

Based on these estimates, Lachesis and Chaos were not conjunct on November 28, 1980—they were roughly 150–180 degrees apart (an opposition, not a conjunction). However, let’s consider their symbolic connection to the UFO event through the lens of the degrees activated that day (e.g., the Sun at 6–7 Sagittarius).
Symbolic Connection to the UFO Sighting
Even though Lachesis and Chaos weren’t conjunct, their individual placements and the degrees in question can still offer insight:
Lachesis at ~5 Scorpio (Near 6 Scorpio): The Sabian symbol for 6 Scorpio is “A Gold Rush,” symbolizing a passionate pursuit of hidden truths. Lachesis here suggests a fated moment of uncovering something transformative—perfectly aligning with the UFO encounter’s theme of revealing the unknown. The couple’s experience of missing time and telepathic communication feels like a destined interruption (Lachesis) in their normal reality, pushing them to confront cosmic mysteries.

Chaos at ~0 Taurus: Chaos in Taurus, opposing Lachesis, might indicate a grounding of chaotic, transformative energy in the material world. The opposition to Lachesis suggests tension between destiny (Lachesis) and disorder (Chaos), where the UFO sighting disrupts the couple’s sense of normalcy (Taurus) in a fated way (Lachesis). Chaos’ role in new beginnings aligns with the couple’s transformative experience, opening them to a new understanding of reality.

Sun at 6–7 Sagittarius: The Sun’s position near 7 Sagittarius (“Cupid Knocking at the Door of a Human Heart”) emphasizes cosmic exploration and awakening. This degree’s connection to UFOs (as previously discussed) resonates with the sighting, and Lachesis’ proximity to 6 Scorpio ties the event to a fated uncovering of hidden truths.

While Lachesis and Chaos weren’t conjunct, their placements still symbolically support the UFO event’s themes: a fated (Lachesis) disruption (Chaos) that aligns with cosmic exploration (7 Sagittarius).
Step 4: Connection to 6 Scorpio, 7 Sagittarius, and 25 Capricorn
6 Scorpio: As noted, Lachesis at ~5 Scorpio is very close to this degree, directly tying the UFO sighting to 6 Scorpio’s “Gold Rush” energy—a fated pursuit of cosmic knowledge.

7 Sagittarius: The Sun’s position at 6–7 Sagittarius on November 28, 1980, activates this degree, reinforcing the UFO sighting as an exploratory, awakening experience.

25 Capricorn: No major planets were near 25 Capricorn on that day, and neither Lachesis nor Chaos connects directly to this degree. However, 25 Capricorn’s theme of disciplined mysticism could reflect a structured investigation of the sighting after the fact, though there’s no direct link here.

Step 5: Lachesis Conjunct Chaos in a Hypothetical Context
If Lachesis and Chaos were conjunct (e.g., in a natal chart or future transit), their combined energy could strongly relate to UFO phenomena:
Fated Cosmic Disruption: The conjunction might indicate a destined encounter with the unknown, such as a UFO sighting, where chaos (disorder, new beginnings) aligns with a pivotal, fated moment (Lachesis). This could manifest as a transformative experience that reshapes one’s worldview.

Timing of Anomalous Events: Lachesis’ focus on timing suggests that the chaotic event (UFO encounter) occurs at a predestined moment, forcing a re-evaluation of reality.

Activism and Revelation: Chaos’ association with activism might manifest as a drive to share or investigate the experience, disrupting societal norms about extraterrestial life.

Conclusion
Lachesis and Chaos were not conjunct on November 28, 1980, but their individual placements still resonate with the Dundee UFO sighting. Lachesis near 6 Scorpio aligns with the fated pursuit of hidden truths, Chaos in Taurus reflects the disruptive new beginning of the encounter, and the Sun at 6–7 Sagittarius ties it to cosmic exploration. A hypothetical Lachesis-Chaos conjunction would strongly amplify these themes, potentially indicating a destined, chaotic encounter with the unknown, such as a UFO event, that reshapes one’s path. There’s no direct connection to 25 Capricorn or an earthquake in Italy on that date, as previously established. If you’d like to explore this conjunction in a specific chart or context, let me know!
The conjunction of Asteroid Chaos and Eris in astrology may have various interpretations, and it's important to note that interpretations can vary among astrologers. Here are some possible significances:

Asteroid Chaos and Eris:

Asteroid Chaos is associated with the primordial state of existence, unpredictability, and the chaotic forces of creation and change.
Eris is linked to discord, strife, and the challenging of established norms and power structures.
Possible Significance:

The conjunction of Chaos and Eris may symbolize a potent blending of disruptive and transformative energies, potentially bringing about upheaval and the breaking down of established systems or paradigms.
Disruption and Transformation:

This alignment might signify a period characterized by unexpected events, challenges to existing structures, and the stirring of deep-seated discord or unrest.
Creative Potential:

It could also represent a time when chaos and discord act as catalysts for creative and innovative change, challenging the status quo and leading to new and unconventional approaches.
Revelation of Hidden Truths:

The conjunction of Chaos and Eris may also point to a period when hidden or suppressed truths come to light, potentially sparking significant shifts in perception and awareness.
Social and Collective Impact:

It might indicate a time of collective upheaval, social unrest, or the challenging of power dynamics within society, as well as the potential for transformative changes at a broader level.

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ASTEROID CYBELE
Cybele is an earth mother goddess with a twist. She is a rather colourful character depicted as an exotic foreigner arriving on a chariot drawn by roaring lions and escorted by drunken, ecstatic revellers playing wild music. Cybele was originally an ancient Anatolian (Asia Minor) mother goddess that the Greeks then assimilated. She is the Goddess of mountains and lions. She was absorbed into other earth goddesses in some parts of Greece, such as Gaia, Rhea, and Demeter.

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THE CYBELE MYTH
Cybele was famed for her entourage of transgender and eunuch priests, and her consort was a castrated Shepard named Attis. She is quite the paradox then, chiefly known for being this fertile earth Goddess but with a slim chance of having children from her dismembered partner. The Romans reinvented Cybele as a Trojan goddess, but her true meaning, mystery, and the manner of her worship are still hotly debated. However

“Her associations with hawks, lions, and the very stone of the wild, mountainous Anatolian landscape suggest her as the mother of the land and its wild, untrammelled nature, with power to dominate, moderate or soften its latent ferocity, and control its potential threats to a settled, civilised life.” [1]

Ceres On Steriods
Cybele is a sabre-toothed Ceres on steroids… with claws. Although Cybele is a devoted mother, as a foreigner, her parenting style is distinctly “uncivilised.” The Greeks were in awe of her and took her into their culture, but in reality, they held her at arm’s length. Her animalistic behaviour and liking for wild places estranged her from her fellow Olympian mother goddesses. It seems her rituals involved a great deal of manic bashing of percussion instruments, hollering, and frenzied gyrating dancers.

This cacophony was thought to be healing, rather like an ancient version of Drum and bass or techno trance. In artwork of the time, Cybele’s consort Attis is shown as her subordinate, always younger than her, and of course, he is an eunuch. Attis starts as a rugged and handsome Shepherd, but after his self-mutilation, he is referred to as a female.

Comparisons To Rhea
Goddess Rhea, one of the Titanesses in Greek mythology, embodies fertility, motherhood, and the generative forces of nature. As the mother of the Olympian gods, including Zeus, Hera, and Poseidon, she holds a significant position in the pantheon, symbolizing the nurturing and life-giving aspects of the earth. Rhea is often depicted with lions which highlights her formidable nature and connection to the wild, untamed elements of the world. The lions symbolize her strength and majesty, reinforcing her role as a protective force. This imagery underscores her dual nature as both a gentle mother and a powerful, commanding figure in the ancient mythological landscape.

Rhea/Cybele Artwork by Marina Marchione at Heavenly & Holy
Cybele Mother Adoration *
I noticed the orb for Cybele seems to be wider than most asteroids, possibly due to its size and orbital period. So, I would give it 3 degrees. Cybele can manifest in a variety of ways. In a man, the most negative can be seen in someone like Jimmy Saville, who worshipped his mother to such an extent that he lived with her until she died. He was a confirmed bachelor, and no other woman could match up to her.

He had Cybele square his Venus/Ceres conjunction. Otherwise, this could indicate a man who adores his mother but never really grows up or leaves home. I know a few situations like this where the son ends up acting as the elderly mother’s manservant, driving her around and being her carer. Of course, regular relationships will suffer, and these subjects will often remain unmarried.

Emasculating *
Cybele harmoniously aspected in a man’s chart can be a fascination with exotic, foreign women who are in touch with their wild, earthy side. But in the hard aspect, they may find these lionesses too frightening and emasculating. Moon conjunct Cybele is a good example but can be a mix of both hard and soft attributes. One of two things can happen in a woman; they may be attracted to placid, feminine men or foreign men of a different race and creed. I have noticed that females with harmonious Cybele/Moon greatly admire their mother, who become a strong role model for them.

It all depends on what planet Cybele is in aspect to because, like Ceres, there is a dark side to her. This comes from the tendency to Dionysian revelling, which can lead to addiction problems. With Cybele, as shown in the discovery chart, there can be problems managing anger, too. I have found a few violent alcoholics (Sun conjunct Cybele) here and spouses who are attracted to dangerous relationships. This seems most noticeable when Cybele is in hard aspect to Mars, Ceres, Lilith or Pluto. I think Cybele is a very interesting and unusual archetype; she is complex in how it will play out in a natal chart. The house she falls in your horoscope is the area of your life where you need to release your wild, exotic, loud and frenzied side. But cage this big cat at your peril!

CHAOS

Dec. 20th, 2023 11:47 am
ember 19 1998. For it’s meaning the first thing we think of is disruption and the world falling apart. The use of the word Chaos as meaning disorder and anarchy came relatively recently in Elizabethan times.

The ancient Greek meaning for Chaos was “Emptiness, vast void, chasm, abyss” from the verb which meant “gape, be wide open”, Wiki. If anything, I think Chaos is more to do with creation than destruction, Chaos is said to be the first of the primordial Gods and represents air. So it is the very beginning, the very first Greek god.

Pr.A's SOLAR RETURN 2019 A.pt.

Minor planet Chaos was discovered on November 19 1998. For it’s meaning the first thing we think of is disruption and the world falling apart.

The use of the word Chaos as meaning disorder and anarchy came relatively recently in Elizabethan times.

The ancient Greek meaning for Chaos was “Emptiness, vast void, chasm, abyss” from the verb which meant “gape, be wide open”, Wiki.

Assisted Dying Bill - Moonset Chaos asteroid

Interactors (most positive to neutral)
Controllers and regulators -
Bonding, peace, things that are loved


If anything, I think Chaos is more to do with creation than destruction.

Chaos is said to be the first of the primordial Gods and represents air. So it is the very beginning, the very first Greek god.

There are so many myths across the world that depict the concept of Chaoskampf, the German word for “struggle against chaos”. It makes one wonder why you would want to struggle with it and who is the bad guy here.
In Chaos there is always a battle between a heroic figure and a dragon. St George and the Dragon, the Archangel Michael fighting Satan or Perseus slaying Medusa. Eastern cultures have similar mythology, which feature a storm god fighting a sea serpent. Eg: Marduk V Tiamat (Babylonian) or Yahweh V Leviathan (Jewish).

Chaos represents the time when the heaven was ripped from the earth and we were left with a gap. The struggle could be the fighting of the demons that come through that gap and that are blocking the blissful feeling of oneness. Our endless battle with the serpent keeps us trapped in the illusion of separateness and duality.

Chaos is not describing the demon itself, just the process of becoming whole again. It is interesting that Chaos is also seen as the prima mater, all the elements of the universe clumped together. Material=mater=mother, so this process is like trying to find out where we came from.
In modern times it’s like trying to find the god particle. The gaping hole could be a star-gate, the birth canal or even the particle accelerator at Cern.
http://darkstarastrology.com/minor-planet-chaos/


CHAOS ASTROLOGICAL MEANING
Asteroid Chaos
Chaos in your chart will show where you have to fight your most difficult battle. It could be your greatest temptation, or addiction and it will be the one thing that gets you every time. You will have to fight this battle again and again until you build enough willpower to see this demon off once and for all.

For some people willpower is not the problem, in fact it might be that they have too much will, making them tough on themselves and too hard hearted. In that case they will have to smash the Saturn wall so that they may be open-hearted and be able to surrender to love. Look to the house position and any close aspects to the personal planets for clues as to whether you are fighting authority above or temptation below. If you have Chaos angular then its themes will be extra pronounced in your life.

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