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what does this mean by arthur witte - Sorrow or damage through one's own actions. Hesitate to deal lazy.
You’re quoting Alfred Witte (often miswritten as Arthur Witte), founder of the Hamburg School / Uranian astrology.
The phrase:
“Sorrow or damage through one's own actions. Hesitate to deal lazy.”
is classic early 20th-century translated German. It sounds clumsy in English, but the meaning is sharper than it looks.
Let’s decode it properly.
1️⃣ “Sorrow or damage through one’s own actions”
This is self-caused difficulty.
Not fate.
Not enemies.
Not outside attack.
It suggests:
Acting prematurely
Acting carelessly
Acting out of ego or impulse
Or making a poor decision that creates consequences
In Uranian astrology, this usually appears under midpoint structures involving:
Saturn (restriction)
Mars (action)
Or hard combinations with Kronos / Hades types of themes
It’s cause and effect. You did something. Now you deal with it.
Bluntly: shooting yourself in the foot.
2️⃣ “Hesitate to deal lazy”
This is awkward translation.
The original German implies:
Reluctance to take responsibility
Avoidance of necessary effort
Delay due to inertia
Or half-hearted engagement
In modern language:
Damage happens because you didn’t act decisively — or acted without discipline.
It’s either:
Acting wrongly
or
Not acting when you should
Both are forms of self-sabotage.
Psychological Interpretation
This combination often describes:
Regret
Guilt
Poor judgment under pressure
Passive avoidance leading to consequences
It’s not tragic destiny.
It’s behavioral consequence.
That’s important.
Constructive Version (If Used Well)
If handled consciously, the same energy can mean:
Learning through mistakes
Developing self-discipline
Becoming cautious with actions
Taking responsibility instead of blaming others
Hamburg School astrology is very literal and often harsh in wording. It doesn’t sugarcoat.
If you tell me:
The exact midpoint structure (e.g., Mars/Saturn = Moon?)
Or the planet + degree involved
I can give you a much more precise interpretation instead of a general one.
Because in Uranian work, context is everything.
==================================================================
Hades Opposing the MC (gunpowder plot)
Let’s interpret this in the clean Uranian system:
Hades (HA) =
decay, decline, rot, disease
poverty, deprivation, dirt
old, ancient, outdated
suffering, mistakes, corruption
deep past, roots, hidden filth
forensic detail, autopsies, the underworld
karmic residues
-------------------------------------------------
Uranian meaning of HADES
Core words:
antiquity
decay / rot / disease / poverty
the past, the old world, old karmic debris
criminality, underworld, filth
secret things below the surface
humiliation, suffering
old wounds / inherited misery
“falling apart”
everything primitive, base, hidden or deteriorating
Its meaning always involves very old, corrupted, or decaying conditions.
📌 MC (Midheaven) in Uranian astrology
MC =
personal reality
one’s true inner state
the “what is” of the situation
the actualization point
the central axis of visible fate
When a trans-Neptunian hits the MC, it becomes part of the chart’s destiny formula, not just an event.
🔥 So: HADES OPPOSING THE MC =
“The reality (MC) is being confronted by extremely old decay, secrecy, corruption, and the karmic residue of the past.”
This is basically:
hidden rot rising
old sectarian hatred
the underworld / criminal element pushing against the state
disgraced energies aimed at the heart of government
inherited grievances coming to the surface
the old world (Hades) attacking the established order (MC)
In mundane charts, Hades–MC opposition frequently shows:
plots
betrayals
exposure of hidden rot
the return of something long-buried
suffering made visible
catastrophic karmic cycles coming due
⭐ Why this fits the Gunpowder Plot eclipse chart perfectly
Because the Gunpowder Plot was:
a secret underworld conspiracy
driven by ancient religious grievance
involving literal tunnels, underground barrels, hidden chambers
shaped by old Catholic-Protestant trauma
aimed at destroying the state’s MC: Parliament
and ultimately publicly exposed (Aries Point logic)
Hades opposing MC makes this eclipse feel like old corruption and ancestral violence forcing itself onto the state’s destiny path.
This is exactly the symbolism we expect.
⭐ BONUS LINK BACK TO ARIES POINT
Now the connection is clear:
Hades opp MC + Eclipse + Aries Point =
Hidden rot becomes visible in the world.
Old crises erupt publicly.
A secret underworld plot hits the public stage.
That’s the textbook manifestation of the Gunpowder Plot moment.
If you want, I can now look at:
MC = ZE/AP or other planetary pictures involving MC
Hades = Sun/Moon for the eclipse
The exact dial structures around MC, AR, Hades, Admetos, Poseidon
How the conspirators’ individual charts hit this eclipse
Just tell me which direction you want to explore.
“things no one wants to see”
MC (Midheaven) =
personal direction
life expression
external identity
fate in the world
one’s public interface
one’s “connection to the vertical line of destiny”
Hades opposite MC means:
1. Hidden decay or corruption in the background of the life direction.
Something “behind” the MC:
rot behind the public façade
something old/dirty/secret influencing fate
exposure of what was buried
2. A karmic or historical burden shadowing the MC.
Often ancestral wounds, past injustices, or old religious/social conflicts.
3. In mundane or political charts:
Hades opposing MC = corruption or decay reaches the leadership / ruling structure.
This is extremely fitting for 1605 England:
Old religious enmities
Secret plots
The legacy of Tudor persecution
The “dirty work” hidden behind the crown’s public image
Past grievances erupting into destiny (MC)
It also implies the public role (MC) becomes defined by confronting something Hades-like.
🌍 3. Combined meaning when you also consider the Aries Point
If a planet (or planetary picture) ties Hades → MC into the Aries Point, the interpretation becomes:
“Hidden decay becomes publicly visible.”
or
“Dark / secret / festering background issues erupt into the public sphere.”
This EXACTLY describes the Gunpowder Plot:
A secret network of grievances
Conspiracies formed in the shadows
Religious “rot” behind the political order
Suddenly made public when discovered
The “Hades opposition MC” in an eclipse chart means:
The destiny (MC) is forced to confront decomposition (Hades).
The nation must face what is rotting beneath the surface.
⭐ To Summarize Simply
✔ Aries Point = Public visibility, manifestation, world action
✔ Hades opposite MC =
hidden decay affecting destiny
exposure of corruption
old grievances undermining the public direction
karmic or ancestral shadow rising to the surface
Put together, this forms a perfect symbolic mirror of the Gunpowder Plot era.
If you want, I can now:
🔹 analyze Hades = MC/AR if that picture exists in your chart
🔹 check other Uranian midpoint pictures active in the eclipse
🔹 or do Hades on the angles (ASC/MC) for the Plot period charts.
Just tell me which direction you'd like next.
You’re quoting Alfred Witte (often miswritten as Arthur Witte), founder of the Hamburg School / Uranian astrology.
The phrase:
“Sorrow or damage through one's own actions. Hesitate to deal lazy.”
is classic early 20th-century translated German. It sounds clumsy in English, but the meaning is sharper than it looks.
Let’s decode it properly.
1️⃣ “Sorrow or damage through one’s own actions”
This is self-caused difficulty.
Not fate.
Not enemies.
Not outside attack.
It suggests:
Acting prematurely
Acting carelessly
Acting out of ego or impulse
Or making a poor decision that creates consequences
In Uranian astrology, this usually appears under midpoint structures involving:
Saturn (restriction)
Mars (action)
Or hard combinations with Kronos / Hades types of themes
It’s cause and effect. You did something. Now you deal with it.
Bluntly: shooting yourself in the foot.
2️⃣ “Hesitate to deal lazy”
This is awkward translation.
The original German implies:
Reluctance to take responsibility
Avoidance of necessary effort
Delay due to inertia
Or half-hearted engagement
In modern language:
Damage happens because you didn’t act decisively — or acted without discipline.
It’s either:
Acting wrongly
or
Not acting when you should
Both are forms of self-sabotage.
Psychological Interpretation
This combination often describes:
Regret
Guilt
Poor judgment under pressure
Passive avoidance leading to consequences
It’s not tragic destiny.
It’s behavioral consequence.
That’s important.
Constructive Version (If Used Well)
If handled consciously, the same energy can mean:
Learning through mistakes
Developing self-discipline
Becoming cautious with actions
Taking responsibility instead of blaming others
Hamburg School astrology is very literal and often harsh in wording. It doesn’t sugarcoat.
If you tell me:
The exact midpoint structure (e.g., Mars/Saturn = Moon?)
Or the planet + degree involved
I can give you a much more precise interpretation instead of a general one.
Because in Uranian work, context is everything.
==================================================================
Hades Opposing the MC (gunpowder plot)
Let’s interpret this in the clean Uranian system:
Hades (HA) =
decay, decline, rot, disease
poverty, deprivation, dirt
old, ancient, outdated
suffering, mistakes, corruption
deep past, roots, hidden filth
forensic detail, autopsies, the underworld
karmic residues
-------------------------------------------------
Uranian meaning of HADES
Core words:
antiquity
decay / rot / disease / poverty
the past, the old world, old karmic debris
criminality, underworld, filth
secret things below the surface
humiliation, suffering
old wounds / inherited misery
“falling apart”
everything primitive, base, hidden or deteriorating
Its meaning always involves very old, corrupted, or decaying conditions.
📌 MC (Midheaven) in Uranian astrology
MC =
personal reality
one’s true inner state
the “what is” of the situation
the actualization point
the central axis of visible fate
When a trans-Neptunian hits the MC, it becomes part of the chart’s destiny formula, not just an event.
🔥 So: HADES OPPOSING THE MC =
“The reality (MC) is being confronted by extremely old decay, secrecy, corruption, and the karmic residue of the past.”
This is basically:
hidden rot rising
old sectarian hatred
the underworld / criminal element pushing against the state
disgraced energies aimed at the heart of government
inherited grievances coming to the surface
the old world (Hades) attacking the established order (MC)
In mundane charts, Hades–MC opposition frequently shows:
plots
betrayals
exposure of hidden rot
the return of something long-buried
suffering made visible
catastrophic karmic cycles coming due
⭐ Why this fits the Gunpowder Plot eclipse chart perfectly
Because the Gunpowder Plot was:
a secret underworld conspiracy
driven by ancient religious grievance
involving literal tunnels, underground barrels, hidden chambers
shaped by old Catholic-Protestant trauma
aimed at destroying the state’s MC: Parliament
and ultimately publicly exposed (Aries Point logic)
Hades opposing MC makes this eclipse feel like old corruption and ancestral violence forcing itself onto the state’s destiny path.
This is exactly the symbolism we expect.
⭐ BONUS LINK BACK TO ARIES POINT
Now the connection is clear:
Hades opp MC + Eclipse + Aries Point =
Hidden rot becomes visible in the world.
Old crises erupt publicly.
A secret underworld plot hits the public stage.
That’s the textbook manifestation of the Gunpowder Plot moment.
If you want, I can now look at:
MC = ZE/AP or other planetary pictures involving MC
Hades = Sun/Moon for the eclipse
The exact dial structures around MC, AR, Hades, Admetos, Poseidon
How the conspirators’ individual charts hit this eclipse
Just tell me which direction you want to explore.
“things no one wants to see”
MC (Midheaven) =
personal direction
life expression
external identity
fate in the world
one’s public interface
one’s “connection to the vertical line of destiny”
Hades opposite MC means:
1. Hidden decay or corruption in the background of the life direction.
Something “behind” the MC:
rot behind the public façade
something old/dirty/secret influencing fate
exposure of what was buried
2. A karmic or historical burden shadowing the MC.
Often ancestral wounds, past injustices, or old religious/social conflicts.
3. In mundane or political charts:
Hades opposing MC = corruption or decay reaches the leadership / ruling structure.
This is extremely fitting for 1605 England:
Old religious enmities
Secret plots
The legacy of Tudor persecution
The “dirty work” hidden behind the crown’s public image
Past grievances erupting into destiny (MC)
It also implies the public role (MC) becomes defined by confronting something Hades-like.
🌍 3. Combined meaning when you also consider the Aries Point
If a planet (or planetary picture) ties Hades → MC into the Aries Point, the interpretation becomes:
“Hidden decay becomes publicly visible.”
or
“Dark / secret / festering background issues erupt into the public sphere.”
This EXACTLY describes the Gunpowder Plot:
A secret network of grievances
Conspiracies formed in the shadows
Religious “rot” behind the political order
Suddenly made public when discovered
The “Hades opposition MC” in an eclipse chart means:
The destiny (MC) is forced to confront decomposition (Hades).
The nation must face what is rotting beneath the surface.
⭐ To Summarize Simply
✔ Aries Point = Public visibility, manifestation, world action
✔ Hades opposite MC =
hidden decay affecting destiny
exposure of corruption
old grievances undermining the public direction
karmic or ancestral shadow rising to the surface
Put together, this forms a perfect symbolic mirror of the Gunpowder Plot era.
If you want, I can now:
🔹 analyze Hades = MC/AR if that picture exists in your chart
🔹 check other Uranian midpoint pictures active in the eclipse
🔹 or do Hades on the angles (ASC/MC) for the Plot period charts.
Just tell me which direction you'd like next.
